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Jgari
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Posted: Mar 01 2014 at 8:54am |
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I start taxol and cytoxin the 13th is it rough?
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Jgari
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Posted: Mar 01 2014 at 8:55am |
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I'm also doing that cold cap, has anyone had any success
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Posted: Mar 01 2014 at 10:13am |
Hello Jgari,
Welcome to the site that nobody wants to be a member of. But, since we are members we strive to be the best support system you will find.
Taxol and cytoxin can be rough or not so rough. Also, I have not heard of any total success with the cold cap. I have seen it used and it is quite labor intensive. You will need a good team working with you to use it.
Please share more about yourself if you will? It helps all of us to identify with your situation better if we know your stage, grade, node status, and if you've had surgery.
You are in good company here, WE ALL UNDERSTAND TRIPLE NEGATIVE.
God Bless,
Lillie
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Dx 6/06 age 65,IDC-TNBC Stage IIb,Gr3,2cm,BRCA- 6/06 L/Mast/w/SNB,1of3 Nodes+ 6/06 Axl. 9 nodes- 8/8 thru 11/15 Chemo (Clin-Trial) DD A/Cx4 -- DD taxol+gemzar x4 No Rads. No RECON - 11/2018-12 yrs NED
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Posted: Mar 01 2014 at 10:43am |
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Well I'm tnbc grade 1 it did not get to nodes. So I'm happy about that. They are doing a trial at st Luke's here with the cold cap. I didn't ask for it. I don't know how good of a team they will be. This is crowded NYC. So that is making me nervous. She said with my pathology she thought this would be a good choice. She also had , she said, another choice for me but it would take longer. I just want the right chemo. If I lose my hair I lose my hair, I'm ok with that. I don't want to dal with this cold cap if it's not going to be managed by a good team and I don't have a lot if faith in this hospital. Also is there a weight Gain issue with taxol? That I don't need
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Jgari
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Posted: Mar 01 2014 at 10:44am |
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Oh this is Jeanne again grade 3 stage 1 double mastectomy no nodes
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MLindaG
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Posted: Mar 01 2014 at 7:05pm |
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Jgari, Someone just reported on the "penguin cap".......do a search and check it out. As far as the chemo drugs........they affect everyone so differently!! Once you get started just see what symptoms you have and I'm sure you'll find others that can assist on what to do. Also do a search and you'll find plenty of advice. I know when I started I had been on a lower carb diet for 3 years prior and I did not want to gain weight and slide backward. The problem......meat tasted terrible and all I wanted was mac and cheese and ice cream!!! I really had to let go and just do what I needed to get through it all. It's kind of interesting......some gain weight and some lose weight while doing all this. I was in the gain weight category. Kind of like when I was pregnant!! LOL The good thing.....my white cell count stayed good..... once you've got your plan in place.......find some good comedy movies....laugh a lot......relax about it all......think positive thoughts and before you know it the weeks will just go by and you'll be through it all!! Losing my hair did not bother me so much....losing my eyelashes did!!! LOL
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Dx TNBC 6/12; age 59; Stage 3, Grade 3; 3.5 cm, 3/10 nodes + chest wall nodes; A/C x4, T x 12 completed 12/12 with PCR, 2/13/13 lump; IMRT Rads x 33 completed 5/22/13 BRCA 1 negative.
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Jgari
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Posted: Mar 01 2014 at 8:36pm |
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Thanks so much Linda!!!! Stay healthy!
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Lillie
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Posted: Mar 01 2014 at 9:12pm |
Dear Jeanne,
It sounds as though getting the correct chemo is more important to you than what will happen to your hair.
Maybe you could try the cold cap your first treatment. If you realize that it is not for you, then don't continue. You say it is a trial and I'm glad they are offering these trials, but if it's not for you, don't compromise your treatments.
Good luck with whatever you choose and may you soon be dancing with NED....
God Bless,
Lillie
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Dx 6/06 age 65,IDC-TNBC Stage IIb,Gr3,2cm,BRCA- 6/06 L/Mast/w/SNB,1of3 Nodes+ 6/06 Axl. 9 nodes- 8/8 thru 11/15 Chemo (Clin-Trial) DD A/Cx4 -- DD taxol+gemzar x4 No Rads. No RECON - 11/2018-12 yrs NED
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Jgari
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Posted: Mar 02 2014 at 8:18am |
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Yes Lilly, I care about the hair but I know it will grow back and because I had already excepted it and was ok with it this took me by surprise. Yes I really just want the correct treatment for our tnbc. Stage 1 grade 3 no node involvement all good news and I'm staying positive, but we know they not really have the studies down pat. I think I'm going for a second opinion. Thanks for the reply stay well!! Jeanne
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Posted: Mar 02 2014 at 8:47pm |
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Mary, do you know when you will be starting rads? We might be finishing up around the same time. I don't have my rads start date yet.
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DX Aug 2013 @ age 60, Stage 2b, grade 3, 2.3 Cm, node positive, BRCA-; neoadjuvant taxolx12 and ACx4: 2/13/14 LX and ALND-2mm residual in 2 nodes
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Posted: Mar 08 2014 at 5:30am |
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Hi Simple, I have had 2 doses of taxol as of yesterday. I am getting weekly taxol, 4 cycles of carboplatin, then AC for 4 cycles. I noticed last Sunday, after my 1st treatment on the 28th (taxol & carbo), that I had pain primarily from my waist down. It seemed to be mostly in my pelvis--lower back mostly but would also happen in the front. Then pain in my femur, and occasionally in my ankle & jaw. I'll be interested to see if it occurs again this week. Did you experience this at all? Audrie
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Posted: Mar 08 2014 at 9:40am |
I think most of us here on the forums feel that the bone pain is from the Nuelasta injections we go back for the day after Taxol. Hated that pain. Natalie
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TNBC stage1 size 1.8, grade3 no nodes 4/11 Lumpectomy 5/11 4cycles DD A/C 4cycles DD Taxol. Double Mastectomy 12/11 BRCA all neg
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Posted: Mar 20 2014 at 11:08pm |
It has been a year since I was diagnosed and started treatment. It seems like such a short time but so long ago also. My heart goes out to you ladies that have followed on this journey. Jgari it can be tough at times, but you are tougher.
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Dx 3-7-13 TNBC, 5cm pT2N1M0 3-19-13 ACx4, 5-14-13 Taxolx4 7-17-13 BMX ypT1N2M0(.9mm) 4/24 nodes. 10-8-13 completed Rads x 30 12-3-13 completed Eribulin Trial 10-18-13, 3-19-14 Bone/Ct Scan Clear
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One thing is for sure.... Everyone on chemo responds so different, while the fear and anxiety is the same for us all. My onc scheduled me for 4 rounds of AC followed by 4 rounds of DD Taxol. Fortunately, I have never had to deal with nausea or vomiting, but it seems I have every other side effect possible instead. Before my AC was completed, I developed what my onc called hand and foot syndrome. Sunburn like pain, swelling and eventually peeling skin. Ive lost both big toe nails and my fingernails look to follow suit. The slightest touch on my fingers or toes felt like a hammer strike. Once the peeling finished and my AC was over this lessened some but the damage to my nails was done. My hair was coming out so much that I chose to shave my head. For me it was much less traumatic than the daily handfuls of hair coming out. The mouth and throat sores the first few rounds of AC were horrible but the magic mouthwash along with salt water/soda rinses helped tremendously. I never had a change in taste or smell but my hearing and eyesight definitely took a hit, sounds seemed so loud and my vision could double or go blurry if I tried to do too much. Dry mouth, runny eyes and nose seem never ending.... until I got a cool mist humidifier. For me it works like a charm. As long as I keep it running these side effects almost stopped completely. Pain and fatigue seem to be my norm, thankfully my doc got the pain under control with pain meds, the fatigue keeps me in bed or on the couch. I had hoped to tolerate the Taxol better.... I am two rounds in and the pain and fatigue are 100x worse than I experienced with the AC. I blamed the neulasta shot and since my numbers were way up my onc agreed we could discontinue the shot. Especially since I told him I was basically a hermit staying away from public places and keeping my home as germ free as possible.....he was okay with foregoing the shot for now.... Since starting the Taxol, I have had little or no voice, sounding like I have rocks in my throat. Thankfully there is no pain but not being able to talk half the time is really frustrating. I lost my hair with the AC, but it was the Taxol that took my eyebrows and lashes. During this time I had several painful styes. I found that putting Vaseline on my eyebrows helped keep them from getting in my eyes when they fell out. Due to increasing tingling and numbness in both my hands and feet, I had to skip a week without my 3rd dose of Taxol and will have a 25% reduction the last two treatments.. This Monday I go back for my 3rd dose of Taxol and while I am dreading it, I am also excited to be nearing the end of this portion of my treatment plan. The pain and side effects are all temporary and one day will be a distant memory as I get many more years with my children and grandchildren. My intent is to inform and I hope I don't scare anyone away from treatment with my story. Words and thoughts have power. Faith and belief imperative. Every day I have, I am thankful and believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that our bodies can heal themselves given the right medicines and nutrition. peace and blessing to all!!
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Dx 09/14 IDC-TNBC ST-3a,T2M2M0,3.8cm,BRCA- 10/14 bil/mast, 6 of 13 Nodes+ AC4/DDT4 comp. 05-2015 surg. to remove my GB 04/2015 Rads scheduled 05/2015 Recon after Rads??
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Posted: Feb 21 2015 at 11:35am |
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Taxol brought a new host of symptoms for me as well. The Taxol/Neulasta pain in my bones was intense - I too took the strong pain meds to get thru it. Are you doing the ice bath on your hands and feet? After my first Taxol I had neuropathy in my hands so my Onc had me do an ice bath - put on two pairs of rubber gloves, then they gave me a plastic basin filled with ice water and I plunged my hands in. Kept them in until it started hurting and I'd pull them out for a few minutes - then back in again for as long as I could stand it. You start this right when they start the Taxol infusion and do it the whole time. It was like 2 hours? It worked like a charm! She said if my feet started we'd do the same thing for them, but luckily that never happened. I don't know why they don't do this for every person for every Taxol treatment because it really works! It's not nearly as painful or a hassle as it sounds, it's truly no big deal. And so worth it! I was pre-menapausal when I started chemo. I had my last period right after my first A/C treatment - and that was it, I've never had a period again. Starting the day after my first Taxol the hot flashes started. Brutal red hot flashes, worse at night. I have them to this day! I'd give ANYTHING to have my periods back! Chemo-pause is no joke. Right after my 2nd Taxol treatment I was on the phone with my Onc talking about the horrible hot flashes and bone pain when she said, "I sense that you are feeling blue, you aren't yourself. You seem like you are getting darker. Do you feel your moods are getting darker?" I laughed! Welll, let's see. I'm bald as an egg, I have about 5 eyelashes left, I feel nauseous yet ravenous, my bones ache constantly, I'm pretty sure I'm going to burst into flame during one of these hot-flashes, I get exhausted walking from one end of the house to the other from the anemia............why yes, I do believe I'm feeling "blue", LOL!" she put me on the anti-depressant Pristiq, which helps with the hot flashes as well as the depression. Within a week I was feeling markedly better! There is SO MUCH that happens to us during this onslaught of treatment, my best advise is to take whatever medications you have to, to just get thru it! Pain meds, sleeping aids, anti-anxiety, anti-depressants - those symptoms are REAL and they are hard! Everyone is different, whatever you are feeling is real and you should do whatever it takes to get thru it. You only have 2 treatments left! It's getting close! And the rads truly are NBD compared to chemo. 4 weeks after my final chemo we went to the beach for a week, before I started the radiation. It was a GLORIOUS week! I felt so much better, swam in the ocean, laid n the sun - tanned my bald head - ate tremendous food, drank fruity cocktails (I hadn't had an alcoholic beverage in over 7 months at that point). It was very healing being away. I highly suggest you plan something special for yourself as a treat between chemo and rads - you deserve it!
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IDC, 2.2 cm, Stage IIb,lumpectomy 1/30/09 ACx4,Tx4 36 rads 6/1/16 Local recurrence same breast, same spot 1.8cm Carb.4x every 3 wks, Taxol 12x once wk. Dbl Mast. PCR!! Reconstruction fail, NED!
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Posted: Feb 28 2015 at 1:25am |
Unfortunately a plan is already in place for my time between chemo and rads.... during my scans I discovered my gall bladder is "slap full of stones", the doctors words not mine. Which comes as no surprise since I have had many health issues over the years that I turned a blind eye to again and again. So as soon as I recover enough from chemo, I am due to have it taken out....then rads, then maybe recon. I haven't really decided yet. Ah, but you can bet I am planning a trip to the beach as soon as I can. Daydreaming about my vacation when all this is over helps me ride the rough spots. Well, that and all the meds I take to treat my symptoms help too. The struggle is real, chemo-brain and chemo-pause is no joke. The hot flashes followed by shivering spells that leave me dizzy and weak take my breath away and I was always forgetful before, but this fog over my brain takes the cake. Kellyless our story is much the same, I too was pre-menopausal having my last period during my first A/C treatment and have not had one since. definitely a bonus. The hot flashes are nothing new but they are WAY more intense now, ( I am thinking having your period back does not mean you dodge the hot flashes) I am blaming it on being bald in the winter having to wear a freaking cap all the time. I have NEVER been one to put a hat on...ever.......Oddly enough my hair is growing back. I didnt lose all my eyebrows until after my first Taxol but by my third treatment, my hair is coming back in..... I can say I sincerely miss my nose hairs, though. Those I want back first not last!!  The A/C was brutal but this Taxol is a whole new monster but it has been easier since I stopped taking the Neulasta shot. The pains are still there but not nearly as intense with the shot. I am optimistic all this will improve will once I am done with chemo,
and look forward to when all this is nothing but a memory.  My family is putting up with my hyper vigilance about hand-washing, changing clothes and taking their shoes off, sorta...my 9 year old granddaughter lives with us so with her it is an every day reminder....I consider it my lesson in patience... I can see the light at the end of this tunnel and this site has been a huge help with all the info and insight I have gained since coming here. My husband and oldest daughter heard my doctor tell me to stay off the discussion boards because all they would do is frighten me. I had to assure them that while there are sites out there that shock and awe this one does not. It reassures me that there are many women out there just like me who have gone through this before and not only survived but THRIVED!! Just as I indeed on doing myself!! peace nancy
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Dx 09/14 IDC-TNBC ST-3a,T2M2M0,3.8cm,BRCA- 10/14 bil/mast, 6 of 13 Nodes+ AC4/DDT4 comp. 05-2015 surg. to remove my GB 04/2015 Rads scheduled 05/2015 Recon after Rads??
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