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Poll Question: What is your Vitamin D blood level?
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Mainy,
 
Vitamin D is holding many...not some  the answer for all of us, and most MD's do not have a clue. Glad to see that Marie does. The dosages most doctors prescribe are way too low, and will tell you that 400 iu's are enough. Read the link that Ronda posted, or the ones in the news forum that I have posted.
 
What you weigh should determine the amount of D that you take. So...if a 20 pound child can take 2000 iu's and then some doctors tell you that is all you as an adult should take and you weigh 200 pounds....don't you think you should question that? They are not taught about D in med school, or have very little education on that, or any other vitamin or alternative medicines, as the drug companies sort of let that one slide when they wrote the medical books.Big%20smile No money in what they cannot maufacture and sell to you to continue to make the billions that they do each and every year.
 
I know I keep telling you all to get Suzanne Somers book Ageless, and I doubt that many have. No I do not get a kick back for telling youBig%20smile The antiaging field has many answers to the problems that all of us have. We are the sickest country in the world, our women are the sickest in the world, and just by virtue of the fact that most doctors only prescribe drugs, makes us even sicker.
 
The synthetic hormones are proven to cause cancer, and yet most doctors continue to prescribe them. So why are women allowing their doctors to prescibe them? Sure beats the heck out of me.Shocked They cannot think for themselves?...they cannot read.?..the internet is only a keyboard away.
 
The Fosamax is killing women, actually causing bones to braek, and women are dying of espohageal cancer,  and yet the women continue to take it? Why? Not me, and since I had been on it for many years, it will take years before it is out of my body. That scares the hell out of me, and should everyone.
 
D is a hormone, and one that we all need, and pregnant women should be taking 5000 iu's daily and all children should be taking it. The Vitamin D council has published the facts, and yet do you ever hear of a pediatrician prescribing it, or for that matter an OB/GYN?  Oh no, be afraid, be very afraid while you are pregnant, and yet small children are developing rickets.
 
You had better believe that the thyroid plays a major function in our body, and yet they do not give the correct tests, and most doctors do not know how to read the tests. When all the hormones in our bodies are not in sync, cancer steps in very quietly and starts growing. Unfortunately, it seems that women receive improper or no care when it comes to the issue of perimenopause or menopause,  and are told to "deal with it", and are given horses urine to help. Or take a Xanax, or another anti depressant or anti anxiety med. Sure as hell is not the solution, yet that is what most doctors prescribe. Take a melatonin to sleep...does wonders and is a natural hormone.
 
Now they want to outlaw biodentical hormones? Compounding pharmacists will be considered  "outlaws" if they mix them? It is  compounding pharmacists who mix the chemo.
 
Ok...enough...the book Anti Cancer, a new way of life, and the book Ageless are 2 good reads, and will really get you thinking as to what you want to put into your body and how you want to live the rest of your life.....especially after a dx of BC and treatments of chemotherapy and radiation. Time to think outside the box, as what we have been told for years and is "inside the box" sure as hell hasn't worked!
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Lumpectomy due to incorrect dx of a cyst
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Hi Nancy, yes I re-read your articles as well as Ronda's, can't read enough about this. It's my understanding that the 3 is a hormone but that the 2 is not.
 
In my infinite ignorance I've been trying to connect some of the dots on this and have been considering going on one of the Zometa trials. But a little bug of intuition is telling me that the Zometa is a big pharma's laboratory manuf'd answer to what the D3 could do naturally.
 
I'm particularly intrigued by the thought that the D2 could be "designed" by Big Pharma to give high #'s with the fully knowledge that the results of the 2 and 3 will be lumped together, hence the patient will remain ignorant of the true D3 number and all the problems that physically will ensue and those ailments will never be resolved but instead treated at a tidy little trust fund for the Big Pharma folk. Sheesh I'm getting cynical!
 
 
My mom took Fossamax and tried just about all the others over time, they made her sicker than a dog, so I haven't been real excited about taking anything in that 'family' of drugs.
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Mainy,
 
Read the side effects of Zometa! That would convince me not to take it, and D3....well...no side effects. If the drug companies could manufacture D3 they would, and who knows...there may come a time when D3 will be illegal, except by prescription as it is a hormone, and heaven forbid that we should take or eat anything that is not approved by the FDA....such as Cherrios!!! We forget all too quickly how they work and lobby and how congress is tied to these lobbyists, and all the kick backs they receive. The doctors as well!!
 
 
Drugs are great, antibiotics are great, but the compounding pharmacists have been doing their thing for many many years. Acually since time began, and here in the states until men started finding a way to manufacture every med we take, and make billions every year doing so, all our meds were compounded. Some still are...as I said...the chemotherapy drugs.
 
In France the women have been on biodentical hormones for 50 years and they are among the healthiest women on the face of the planet. They are not plagued with cancer and menopausal symptoms as we are here in the states. They take fewer pharmaceutical drugs than we do, probably because they shop daily for fresh food and eat quality food. In Europe (France included) doctors first try to heal homeopathically and then prescribe pharmaceuticals as a last resort. This statement is from the book Ageless, but is a fact!! Here in the states, we take meds for just the slightest ailment. Look at the French women, they look healthy because they are healthy, and chic! Not too many over weight women in France!
 
Perhaps many women will not even look at the book Ageless since it is written by Suzanne Somers. What I say is take a look at her...60 years old, dx with bc 7 years ago, and has been on biodenticals for years. She did not do chemo, but still gives herself a shot of Iscador every week. She stll does gigs, dancing for hours on stage, and is physically active. She must be doing something right!
 
Then take a look at all the women, my Lori included who have also been dx with bc, gone through chemo and rads, and then left to fend for themselves due to chemopause. They have so many issues and there is no one to help because the doctors have enormous egos!! How the hell can being exhausted, bitchy, no sex drive, forgetful, emotionless, no periods at age 33 to 45 be normal? It is not!
 
You are not cynical...you are a truther, and intelligent and can see what is happening. You are soooo right as to the D2!! Don't allow the doctors to keep telling you that the way you are feeling is a"new normal" for women dx with bc and who have undergone treeatments. Pam said it a few of her posts...we are just lab rats for the drug companies.
 
By we I mean me also, as I was one who was on the Fosamax, and lord only knows what it has done to my body. Oh and I also took the HRT's for many years!!! The chemical compound that makes up Fosamax is the same one that we have in the cleaners that we use to scrub our tubs and remove that nasty ring-around-the-tub. WTH was I thinking taking this? Oh that's right....this didn't come out until all the lawsuits started piling up. The problem is that the doctors are still prescribing it!! WTH are they thinking???? Can they not read? Oh they are actually threatened by the drug companies. That was an article I think in the New York Times?
 
Here I go again...but ask Donna....sibu...the biodenticals have given her back her life, and now "they" will try to make them illegal becuse "they" are not making billions off of them.
 
Mainy..read the side effects of Zometa, and decide. Is the more than 31 side effects worth it?
 
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Nancy, I've read the side effects of Zometa and you're so right that it's important to research what it does. Though the severe side effects are rare they are horrendous and getting the PROFESSIONALS to cut back the dosages (the length of time given) is like hitting a brick wall.
I refuse to fall into the trap where meds keep getting piled on top of meds to offset side effects or the failings of a drug.
 
It was such an initial shock to my psyche to understand that in the world of cancer care the perspective is to treat symptoms with more drugs rather than start with practives that don't have such a wide swath of side effects.
 
This cancer stuff is complicated but I always get the feeling that the pros fall too easily into the trap of making choices that enhance the compexities rather than diminish them.
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Hi! New member here checking in with current Vit D level of 45 (up from 24 when tested in April - woohoooo!).  I've been reading all the research on Vitamin D, and wow - it's amazing and scary how many of us are low, and really scary how little consensus there is from the "experts" on how much we need.

After being tested at 24, I did the 50,000 iu/week regimen for 8 weeks and now am up to 45.  Doc wants me to take 2000 iu/day now and will retest again later.  It turns my stomach to think that something so simple may have contributed to my BC dx! Ugh!
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