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Steve and David,

Thank you both for your feedback. You are right - if a physician doesn't welcome a second opinion, then that is the first sign you are with the wrong one!

Steve, I hate to ask for your help again - I have been on the forum less than a week and have already asked you for help more than once. If there is anything you can do or direction you can provide to help us get an appointment with Dr. Sledge, mom and I would be grateful! I have been passing your information on to her. She definitely wants to see a TNBC specialist.

I don't want to put extra work on you so if there is direction you can give me, I will do the legwork. I don't want to take up your time.

I am at work today so I am limited to time to check in - it may be this evening before I can get back on the forum. If it is best to email you directly, just let me know. If others can learn from the steps I take, I certainly don't mind keeping our conversations open to others here on the forum.

Thank you both again for your input and help!!!!
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I am 74. Should I get the TNBC/BRCA testing? (Diagnosed 1/2011) I have a daughter and a granddaughter I'm concerned about.
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Frosty,

This is a question to discuss with your physician. 
While triple negative is a greater fraction of breast cancer in young women, the absolute incidence of all breast cancers including triple negative increases with age.  The NCCN Guidelines recommend BRCA testing for triple negative patients less than age 60 or for patients with a family history of breast/ovarian cancer in close relatives.  There are quite a few other familial cancer syndromes, in addition to BRCA 1 and 2, so again, if "cancer runs in the family" you need to review this in detail with your physicians. 

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I will and thanks for the info.
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We just met with my Mom's oncologist for the first time last week, and I asked the same question about having the BRCA test because she is 63. We have no history of breast cancer in our family. Mom is the first. Since Mom is triple negative though, we thought it was best to have the test just in case she would happen to be positive.

This is what we were told during her appointment:
>> if you are over 60, insurance may or may not pay for it, and the cost can be around $3500 for the test.
>> if you have your blood drawn and sent in for the test, the company doing the testing (I forget the name right now) will contact you if the cost is going to be over $300 for you before proceeding.
>> BRCA status may not effect chemo or radiation treatment options, but it could effect surgery decisions (mastectomy and/or removal of ovaries)
>> of course, if you test positive, your children - sons and/or daughters - should be tested too. From what I have been told and read, men can pass this gene on to their daughters. (If you haven't, you should read Steve's posts here on the forum. His information is very helpful.)

The test results take around 10 days so we won't know anything until the end of the week. If you have any questions about my information here, just let me know. I am new to the forum and just want to try to help others because so many here have helped me.

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Nadine
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Just a quick reply for your mom. My tumor last year was 1.5 cm. Lumpectomy 3/7/11. All nodes clear. Stage 1, Grade 3. I was treated in Denver with ACT (16 treatments + Neulasta shots) followed by 30 RT. I had no issues. Both chemo and radiation went well. I am enjoying the Winter in AZ. I'm 10+ years older than your Mom and am glad I trusted in my Dr and my faith, refusing to listen to anything or anyone that would bring me down. Best of luck to you and your family.
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Dear Frosty,

I don’t know your financial circumstances and don’t want to know...

Here is what I would do. If you can afford it I would suggest you get tested. If you test negative, which hopefully you will, you will then be eligible for Dr. Mary-Claire King’s study which will re-test you for the BRCA mutation plus 20 other genes. In order for you to qualify for Dr. King’s study, which is a free study, you have to have had TNBC and have tested BRCA+ or BRCA-. So your daughter and granddaughter would not be eligible for the test.

If you are BRCA negative via Myriad and then the King study finds another gene that causes breast cancer I believe they would then test your daughter for the new gene, again for free. If G-d forbid she carries it they would test your granddaughter, again without charge.

Here are the details on the study-


warmly,

Steve




I am a BRCA1+ grandson, son and father of women affected by breast/oc-my daughter inherited mutation from me, and at 36, was dx 2004 TNBC I am a volunteer patient advocate with SAGE Patient Advocates
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Originally posted by Grateful for today Grateful for today wrote:

Originally posted by Skclayton Skclayton wrote:

Judy--did you know that since Jan 1, 2012 the new medical care forbids for Tricare and other fed based medical programs to pay for genetic testing AND my BCBS refused to pay for it if you are diagnosed with BC 1 day past your 60th birthday



Skclayton,

Thank you for posting the above.
No, I am not aware of the information you posted.

There is another topic forum/thread:
   http://forum.tnbcfoundation.org/very-important-news-re-tnbc-brca-testing_topic8458.html?KW=BRCA
that has been addressing BRCA testing matters.

I am going to copy your post onto that thread in hopes that others may post whatever updated
information they are aware of.
It may take a few days to checks out what you have shared....that is try to find the fine print so
that we really understand what the status of BRCA testing is as of January 1, 2012.
I am hoping some fine print or references might give additional clarification to the information
you were given.


With caring and positive thoughts to all,

Grateful for today..........Judy


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Hi,

Skclayton posted the above on another thread.   (Above is my response on the other thread)

Does anyone have information about the new BRCA testing info Skclayton referred to?

Thanks.


Grateful for today..............Judy


Edited by Grateful for today - Apr 03 2012 at 12:23am
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Since I was diagnosed at 60 years and 5 months, I was rejected by both my insurances.  I guess they are saying " 60 and over" don't matter.........
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Dear Skclayton,

Please call Myriad and ask for their insurance dept. It is in their economic interest to try and help you get tested so I believe they will try to help you. It may fail, but it is worth a try, in my opinion.

Tel: (801) 584-3600

good luck!!!

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I already had talked to them directly.  They and the cu genetic staff appealed since I met all other medical criteria.  The finalfi al results was to pay the $3700 test fee out of pocket.  
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Hi Skclayton,

Sounds like you have already researched and tried multiple ways to have the BRCA test via insurance.

As you said, as of January 1, 2012, BRCA testing is no longer a benefit with Tricare.

For those with other government funded policies:
The following seems to be the current situation in general:    (always re-check for one's own case)
           Medicare:   BRCA testing is covered when certain criteria are met.
               (Myriad will go over the Medicare criteria for BRCA testing when one calls Myriad)
           Medicaid:
                  Each state has it's own policy about BRCA testing.
                         Some states cover BRCA testing and others do not.
                  For those states that do have a benefit for BRCA testing, each state sets it's own criteria
                          for when BRCA testing is covered.

One last thought.
You mentioned that you have already appealed the insurance denial.
Believe after an insurance denial for commercial insurance products like BCBS/Aetna/United etc,
       there is an option for an outside external appeal.   This is sometimes coordinated by the
       insurance's member services dept or the consumer affairs dept or the grievance dept.
If you have not had an external outside appeal, you may want to consider if this is an option and
how to proceed with your insurance company.

With caring thoughts to you,

Grateful for today...............Judy


Just a FYI for all.
From Myriad website:
Myriad Financial Assistance Program
Myriad is able to offer testing at no charge to uninsured patients that meet specific financial and medical criteria. Due to regulatory limitations, patients who are recipients of governmentfunded programs (ie, Medicaid, Medicare) or those that have any third-party insurance are not eligible to apply.

                 
            
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This is great news for those under 60.  But for those of us over 60---not so much.  Last week, spent 2 hours on phone with NIH and Tricare.  No one could explain to me why the must be under "<60" criteria.
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Both of my insurances turned me down because I was over 60 at the time of diagnosis.  Doubtful you can get an insurance---especially medicare---to pay for the very expensive test.  You will be told the same as me---"too old".
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hi there again from England
When i was diagonised two years ago my tumor size was 3cm, no history of anyone in my family having BC, i had adjacent chemotherapy which was 3 fec and then 3 taxatere, when i had a mammogram there was no change so i had a mascetomy.  I waited 4 weeks from having my last chemo to having the mas, when i got my results two weeks later, my tumor size was 7cm and i had all of my lymphs taken out and none were positive.
 
It seems over here we are so behind, i only found out after all was done that i was triple neg, over here it doesnt seem to be taken as different, no one explained that it would be so likely to reappear, no one explained that diets etc make a big difference and here i am two years later with it returning in my lungs.
We seem to have a two week wait for things to get moving over here, i was told a couple of weeks ago that i had it in my lungs, one nodule or mass was 3.7cm the other wasnt disclosed, im due my CT scan thursday, we dont get PET Scans where i live there are only one or two hospitals that do PET scans.
I start chemo Fri which my oncologist said was going to be Capcetibline and Avastin, then changed it to Capcetibline only, but i have pushed for the Avastin which he has honoured but now pacitaxel and Avastin, i have no confidence that this will work and am not sure if it has gone anywhere else, as for the BRA, i asked my oncologist and he wouldnt give me a straight answer just said it was sporadic.
Am i doing the right thing have the pacitaxel with avastin as first line or should i have stuck to the capcetibline as we read that two weeks ago the FDA have deemed Avastin unsafe.
Also has anybody had the chemo sensitivity blood test, this tells you what most likely to work for your DNA,  we have to go to london to have it and it takes about three weeks to process.
sorry long and winded but so confused all the time
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debby,

Noticed there were no responses to your April post.   Sometimes that does happen........members
intend to go back and post a response.......or one posts on a day where there are a lot of new posts
..........and sometimes there are no definitive answers to questions asked.....or no one reading the forum
had a similar experience (believe others might have had the experience it's just they are not on the forum)
PLEASE if you or anyone post and do not get a response........post again asking for responses.
Was glad to see you posted after April on other threads and did get responses.


Sending you lots of caring and good thoughts,
Grateful for today..............Judy

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FYI.   Re; Myriad Genetics and the BRCA test pattern. Wondering what the outcome of this will be?   

SALT LAKE CITY, Nov. 30, 2012 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Myriad Genetics, Inc. (Nasdaq:MYGN) reported today that the Supreme Court of the United States granted certiorari(*) agreeing to hear the case of The Association for Molecular Pathology, et al., v. Myriad Genetics, Inc., et al (Docket No. 12-398). The Supreme Court will review the earlier decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, which declared that Myriad's composition of matter claims covering isolated DNA of the BRCA 1 and BRCA 2 genes are patent-eligible under Section 101 of the United States Patent Act.

Link for full article:
http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2012/11/30/508826/10014200/en/Supreme-Court-of-the-United-States-to-Hear-Isolated-DNA-Patent-Case.html



*
DEFINITION FROM NOLO’S PLAIN-ENGLISH LAW DICTIONARY of "certiorari"
Certiorari: Latin for "to be fully informed." In cases in which there is no appeal as a matter of right,
certiorari is a writ (order) by the appeals court to a lower court to send all the documents in a case so that the appeals court can review the decision. Certiorari is most commonly used by the United States Supreme Court, which grants certiorari when at least four Justices believe that the case involves a sufficiently significant federal issue.
Definition provided by Nolo’s Plain-English Law Dictionary.



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Great information!  I don't know if this will help anyone but I thought I'd share my experience with the BRCA testing in case it could.  I was uninsured when diagnosed and the company that did my testing had a program to pay for the test if you qualified based on income.  I had to fill out an application and include the first page of my tax return from last year.  Based on my income I was able to qualify for their program.

I'm very grateful that I did because now I know I carry BRCA1.  It may be an option for some folks depending on their situation.  The nurse who worked at my Onc. office told me about it.

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Debbie in England----please give us an update since April..................
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Sweetpickle----I was not denied because of income or insurance.  I had insurance.  I was denied because of age.  I was 60 years and 5 months at diagnosis.  The cutoff was "before 60" for insurance.  The change was due to Obamacare on January 1, 2012.  I had friends that were over 60 prior to the medical law change.
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I have TRICARE as my secondary (retired military) and since I was 60 years and 4 months at diagnosis, I am not under the 60 years ----as Steve indicates.  So Tricare denied me based on no family history and over 60 at diagnosis.
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