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Hi,
 
Yes, good I am happy to hear both went well, the port and the first chemo.
Oh my dear I hope you don't have too many problems but it never hurts to be prepared.
We do care very much, keep us updated and fingers crossed for a easy week-end.Heart
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Jack Daniels (actually I've graduated to Gentleman Jack) and vicodin is my cocktail of choice these days.   It's the only way to keep the bone mets pain to a hum.

I do have expensive taste in alcohol.  Clothes, shoes, cars, I don't care about.  But wine and liquor, only the best will do. 
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Dx mets 12/07 mediastinal and supraclavicular nodes, carbo + taxotere X 6.
brain, lymph, pleura, bone mets. Started Xeloda 8/24/09
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Brenda,
 
Are you able to take a bisphosphonate to help with the bone pain? I understand there is an appreciable decrease in pain for bone metastases.
 
Just a thought,
 
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Hi, guys.  Yes, falafels are excellent dipped in vodka, especially with xanax and vicodin on the side.  Chocolate can play a role as well, especially if it has nuts in it.   Peeps, well, I don't know where they fit exactly, perhaps because I am Jewish. 

I'm off to a conference, a cancer research conference actually AACR.  I'll let you know if I learn anything juicy. 

For now, I'm trying to CHILL OUT, cancer cells in the bones and high tumor marker and unexplained nodules be damned.  Maybe it'll all be ok, or maybe it won't, but living in a state of panic will help absolutely no-one. 

Thanks for all the sweetness, my friends, and thanks for by example showing me how to live with difficult circumstances.

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DX 2/08@43 stg II IDC; gr2,0 nodes. Neoadj chemo, first ACx2 (fail) then CarboTaxotereX6(better). Lump, Rads done 11/08; Clodronate. False alarm queen: PetCT lung & TM marker. NED. PBM w/recon 9/10.
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You guys are something else!!!! 
 
During a bout of scanxiety, my nurse instructed me to go home and take 2 glasses of red wine.  I'm not a drinker, but followed her instructions.  Don't know if it helped; thank G-d that scan was "Stable".
 
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7/07 St 4 mets to nodes/lungs. PACA/Rads NED 11/07-10/08
Lepto mets 10/08
Rads for 4 brain tumors 4/10.
Leptomets return 6/10
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Connie, yes, I just started on Zometa two weeks ago, as soon as the bone mets were dx.  I actually had the first infusion on Thursday after seeing the onc on Monday.  I actually feel pretty good today, and I'm thinking that the radiation is starting to kick in with pain control, too.  I get another Zometa in two weeks, but I hear it takes a few months for that to make much effect on the pain.
 
CarynRose, I don't think the wine made your scans stable, but maybe it made your mental health more stable.
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Brenda I am so happy to see you are feeling better today.
 
Denise, yes we want all the juicy details, enjoy and be safe!
 
CarynRose it is so nice to see you posting again and the word stable is lovely to read.
 
Hugs to all of you,HeartHug
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I started my Xeloda today, 8000 mgs/day. The nurse gave me my cute little starter packet with all the literature and little samples of recommended hand cream. One of the creams was - Udder Cream! I had to explain to her that I didn't have my udders any more. Oops, its for my hands and feet!
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Lol, very clever Linda!
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You know, Bag Balm used to have allantoin in it, years ago.  And even though they say it's the "original formula" it no longer lists allantoin as an ingredient.  The cream I got for my radiation in 2005, Radiaplex (by prescription) had allantoin.  Allantoin is known to stimulate epithelial healing, and is the active ingredient in comfrey.  I used to grow comfrey and use it in poultices, it is very healing.  And, I made some hand oil by steeping comfrey with tea tree oil in olive oil.
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Thanks Brenda. I still have some cream left from radiation and will check that as well  as my bag balm as soon as I can walk across my newly waxed wood floors! I am guessing I can find the comfrey at my local health food store, too? If I find some, I'll have to get the proportions from you. Smile

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I am so amazed at the knowledge and experience of the women on this forum.  What isn't known is quickly researched and learned.  It's just totally awesome.  Clap  Cornelia
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Linda,
 
If you have a local Agway dealer in your area, they carry the bag balm, and it is for the cow's udders. However, I have used it for years and swear by it .
 
I had a young woman who worked for me and they had a dairy farm. Her hands were pretty smooth considering all the freezing days in the barn. It was from the bag balm. It came in a green square can.
Check it out...or maybe even online?
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Lumpectomy due to incorrect dx of a cyst
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I absolutely love bag balm.  I have seen it in the larger WalMarts and since I live in horse and cow country I have also seen it in the big feed stores, where you buy big bags of feed for livestock and they have other supplies for animals.
Wouldn't be surprised if CVS or Walgreens would carry it.  I bought a tin of it years ago and still use it, it is the best stuff.
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Novel Xeloda Dosing Schedule May Offer Well-Tolerated Alternative For Treatment Of Advanced Breast Cancer

 

A novel biweekly dosing schedule of Xeloda (capecitabine) enabled safe delivery of higher daily doses in the treatment of advanced breast cancer, according to an investigational study published in the April 10, 2008 issue of the Journal of Clinical Oncology. The data showed that a seven-days-on/seven-days-off (7-on/7-off) regimen, called "dose dense," was generally well-tolerated up to 2,000 mg twice daily (4,000 mg/day), providing a potential alternative to the standard Xeloda dosing of 14 days on and seven days off (14-on/7-off).

"As we predicted using the Norton-Simon mathematical model -- the basis for the dose dense approach to therapy that was pioneered at MSKCC -- these results demonstrate that a biweekly regimen of capecitabine appears to be well-tolerated, at dosing levels that are higher than previously thought possible," said Tiffany A. Traina, M.D., a medical oncologist in the Breast Cancer Medicine Service at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center (MSKCC) in New York and lead author of the study. "We're currently conducting later-phase trials to determine the efficacy of this 7-on/7-off dosing schedule."

Efficacy of the 7-on/7-off schedule using Xeloda is being determined in a Phase II clinical trial program in patients with advanced breast cancer and is also being tested in combination with Avastin (bevacizumab).
About the Study

Prior to study initiation, the Norton-Simon mathematical model (Norton et al, AACR 2005) -- which explores how the growth characteristics of a cancer affect response to chemotherapy -- was applied to determine that the maximum impact of Xeloda treatment in breast cancer patients occurs after seven days. Based on this finding, the single-center, open-label phase I/II trial was designed to determine the maximum tolerated dose (MTD) of Xeloda administered orally for seven days, followed by a seven-day rest (7-on/7-off), in patients with advanced-stage breast cancer. MTD was defined as the highest dose for which the incidence of dose-limiting toxicity (DLT) is less than 33 percent. DLT was defined as grade 3/4 hematologic toxicity lasting greater than two weeks despite growth factor support, or any grade 3/4 nonhematologic toxicity.

The Phase I study dose escalation scheme was a standard "3+3" design, using flat dosing that begins at 1,500 mg twice daily and increases by 500 mg/dose level until the MTD is reached. All patients in a cohort were observed for 28 days before enrollment to the next level is permitted to monitor for delayed toxicity.

The study showed that the dose dense regimen was well-tolerated in patients with advanced breast cancer, allowing safe delivery of higher daily doses than routinely used in practice. Of the 21 patients recruited for the trial, 18 were treated with Xeloda and reached a maximum tolerated dose of 2,000 mg twice daily. There were no grade 4/5 toxicities and grade 3 toxicities (which included one dose-limiting incident of hand-foot syndrome at 2,000 mg twice daily and two at 2,000 mg/2,500 mg, and one dose-limiting incident of diarrhea at 2,000 mg/2,500 mg) were transient and medically manageable. The most frequently reported treatment-related grade 2/3 adverse events were hand-foot syndrome (29 percent), leukopenia/neutropenia (24 percent) and fatigue (19 percent).

About XELODA (capecitabine)

Xeloda is the only FDA-approved oral chemotherapy for both metastatic breast cancer and adjuvant and metastatic colorectal cancer. Inactive in pill form, Xeloda is enzymatically activated within the body; when it comes into contact with a naturally occurring protein called thymidine phosphorylase, or TP, Xeloda is transformed into 5-FU, a cytotoxic (cell-killing) drug. Because many cancers have higher levels of TP than does normal tissue, more 5-FU is delivered to the tumor than to other tissue.

A clinically important drug interaction between Xeloda and warfarin has been demonstrated; altered coagulation parameters and/or bleeding and death have been reported. Clinically significant increases in prothrombin time (PT) and INR have been observed within days to months after starting Xeloda, and infrequently within one month of stopping Xeloda. For patients receiving both drugs concomitantly, frequent monitoring of INR or PT is recommended. Age greater than 60 and a diagnosis of cancer independently predispose patients to an increased risk of coagulopathy.

Xeloda is contraindicated in patients who have a known hypersensitivity to 5-fluorouracil, and in patients with known dihydropyrimidine dehydrogenase (DPD) deficiency. Xeloda is contraindicated in patients with severe renal impairment. For patients with moderate renal impairment, dose reduction is required.

The most common adverse events (greater than or equal to 20%) of Xeloda monotherapy were diarrhea, nausea, stomatitis and hand-foot syndrome. As with any cancer therapy, there is a risk of side effects, and these are usually manageable and reversible with dose modification or interruption.
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Thank you Connie!!!
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As to the Bag Balm, many pharmacists keep it behind the counter for when people ask for it specifically.  If it's not on the shelf, most likely the pharmacist has it.
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Okay... my cream is called "Udderly Smooth" and it does contain the Allantoin ingredient that Brenda mentioned. They have a web site (udderlysmooth.com) that discusses oncological use of their cream for hand and foot syndrome. (Nothing about udders, though). I tried it and it absorbs quickly without a greasy feeling.   

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It sounds nice Linda, hope it is good.
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Denise,
 
I would interpret your bone scan news as positive.  I would still be watching very carefully for new disease though.  Sometimes disease is simply subclinical - not able to be detected yet by medical procedures.  It still helps though to be positive in thought.  Your mind can do a lot to help heal your body and fend off cancer.  You're in my thoughts and prayers.
Yours Online, Kathleen

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