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Topic: treatment for brain mets
Posted By: 3neg
Subject: treatment for brain mets
Date Posted: Feb 06 2008 at 5:37am
Help!
My friend, a BRACA TNBC, who has lung mets, was diagnosed today with brain mets. She was to start xeloda. Tomorrow she meets with her onc about this new event. Any advice? What is done? What can I tell her? She can't wrap her head around this one... She was on a trial and took Carbo and Taxol with Avastin. Knowing that more was growing in her lungs, they were going to give her xeloda next. Now this new mets...


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous



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Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 06 2008 at 5:46pm
I just finished whole brain rads for my brain mets. I guess the treatment depends on her mets. How many, where they are, etc. If it's a few areas they can target, they might just concentrate on that area. If there are  alot, they might do whole brain rads.

The first thing would be to discuss the pathology report to decide what the best course of treatment is for her.

I'll be honest. This treatment for my brain mets has been the hardest so far for me in my treatment so far. Worse than any chemo I ever had. It just made me really foggy and weak. The decadron that they had me on for inflammation messed my body up. I'm getting my strength back, but I still get really tired and foggy. It won't last forever. Today I felt like I'm starting to improve.

I was going to start Ixempra but got brain mets and had to take care  of that. I'll start that chemo later this month.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 07 2008 at 10:41pm
I just spoke to my friend. She asked about side effects and her onc didn't answer her. She's on the decadron already and not liking it. I knew there were side effects and promised her I'd find out more so that she will be prepared. She honestly thought it would be easier than chemo and I told her I didn't know exactly.
Just that..when I was doing breast rads I saw others getting wbr and I saw that they were not all that comfy...
 
How long are you out of the WBR? Like..about how long is it taking you to lift the fog?
 
You sound so great, Ferne. I hope you continue to heal and the next chemo treatment will be good and easy for you.
 
Thanks so much Ferne!
 


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 08 2008 at 1:50am
Hi Deb,

I'm still foggy, but I'm still working full time too. I just have to take breaks more often while I'm there. I'm really puffy from the decadron and it makes  my skin hurt when you touch it and my joints are pretty achy. My last treatment was January 24th and I fiinished the decadron on Feb 5th.

I'm still having headaches, blurry vision and wobbliness and I still get confused sometimes, so I have to wait a week to see if it gets any better. If it doesn't, they want to do another MRI.

Some days, your friend will be so tired, and then there will be these spurts of energy and clarity...it's kinda unpredictable. Then there are times when I don't even have the energy to even talk to people. It's just too overwhelming to try to comprehend.

I guess the fog lifting depends on the person. I hope your friend has a  better tolerance fror the treatment than me. My body always has tolerated chemo fairly well, and always became weak from rads.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 08 2008 at 6:56am
Thanks Ferne..
What are the rads themselves like? She asked me. She goes in on Sunday for her first appt.  She wants to know what to expect. They told her nothing.
Your information and experiences will really help her and others. Were you prepared for what was going to happen? She asked but they gave her no information.


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 08 2008 at 8:16am
Hi Deb,
I first had to do the measurements of my head. Then they molded the mask I had to wear for the treatments. It covered my entire face and clamped into position on the bed. It was very tight fitting and uncomfortable. They actually asked me if I wanted to get started with my first treatment right then.

As I got through the treatments, my head became too swollen to put the mask on, so they marked me and I had to stay really still.

The rads itself didn't take long at all. I remember I would smell Iodine when the machine started. The tech told me it was ozone that I smelled.

I had a total of 10 treatments. I was totally clueless as to the procedure.
I didn't have to change clothes, my hair fell out (what was left of it from chemo), At the place I go to, I saw the nurse and doctors much more that I did with breast rads. I saw someone almost everyday

They also told me not to drive when I was getting the rads.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 09 2008 at 1:13am
Wow, Ferne. Sounds pretty difficult. I am going to forewarn her so that when they talk to her tomorrow she will have heard some of this and it will be easier to absorb...and she'll understand that this is how it is when she's doing the rads.
 
She knows her hair will fall out This will be her third time having hair fall out so she humored herself and just bought 2 new wigs...
 
I will tell her this about being watched carefully. I already told her she needed somebody there with her every day but she's not driving anyway right now.
 
Ferne..thank you so, so much. I will keep you posted about her. I so appreciate you sharing this with me.
 
 


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 09 2008 at 4:40am
Yes,

Please keep me posted. Olivia on bco completed wbr as well and we've been pm'ing each other about our experience with it.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: sunbearz
Date Posted: Feb 09 2008 at 7:48pm

There are chemos and radiation that can knock it out.Trust in what we have to battle it.There is proof that it works. Were all here for her.

Embarrassed jill



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Dx 1998 mast.Bone mets 2003
ac/xeloda,zometa,taxotere,,doxcil,rads to hip
triple neg brca-gemsar
Abraxine
2008 -gemsar/taxol combo
Taxotere ,Ixempra,liver, lung
Mets
Testosterone


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 09 2008 at 10:48pm
Thanks Jill.
Ferne..thanks! That's good that you can share your experiences with Olivia as well. I want to tell you that I told my friend all the things you said. I copied it all down and called her up. She is extremely appreciative of all the info. Thanks so much..from her and me both.
I will hear from her later. She should be there now getting set up as I write. Have had sleepless nights. I'm worried about her but I spoke to her yesterday and she is in good spirits. She's probably doing better than I am!!!


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: BrendaF
Date Posted: Feb 10 2008 at 5:48am
3neg, you are a good friend.  Are you a BC survivor yourself, or just posting on behalf of your friend?


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 10 2008 at 9:10am
Hi Deb,

I just wanted to let you know that aside from the weakness in my legs from the decadron, I'm starting to get my energy and strength back. I still have some headaches, but I can take Tylenol for it and most of the time that works fine. I've had so far 2 good days in a row. That's a first.

Please tell your friend that I'm starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel, so please be encouraged that it will not last forever.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 11 2008 at 3:11am
Great news, Ferne! I'm glad to hear you are beginning to "see the light"!
 
Brenda..I am a BC survivor. I was diagnosed in 2005 with triple neg. I met my friend online when she was looking for help with her mets to her lungs and learned she lived about an hour from me. We've been friends ever since.
 
She has had 2 WBRs. She was hospitalized yesterday after the first treatment because she was feeling really bad. They thought that it was either from her lung mets which seem to be causing a lot of chest pressure in recent weeks and she has had progression there, or it's the decadron. Whatever it is..they are keeping her under watch for now until they can figure out what is causing the problem. She had a bad night but was in good spirits this morning and said she was feeling a whole lot better.  She has lots of visitors and I'll be there tomorrow morning. Too many people pounced in on her today...
 
Ferne..keep feeling better and better. I'll report that to her tomorrow!


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 12 2008 at 5:54am
Ferne..I visited my friend today who told me to tell you THANK YOU for all your help and when she gets home and back on the computer, she will personally thank you.
She had her 3rd WBR today. Still hospitalized. She feels safer in the hospital. She's got family with her round the clock. She's very nervous. Side effects right now seem to be pins and needles in her hands. Her doctor said he'd try her on something against what seems to be neuropathy. She's suffering from it. Her head aches a touch and she is very tired. But she's eating! She seems to be okay...just kinda needs people around her all the time to get her through the emotional part of it. The physical part doesn't seem to be that bad...maybe the worst is yet to come.
That's the update today...
Ferne..hope you are doing well today.


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 12 2008 at 9:33am
Hi Deb,

I'm glad your friend has lots of people around. I bet it provides some comfort.

Like a dummy, I worked through it. If I had to do it again I'd take the time off!!!

I also have a weird kind of neuropathy.  Still have it although it's better now. My feet would get very hot and I would not be able to feel them sometimes. My hands would get a little tingly too. An onc nurse told me to take Vitamin B6 when I had it from chemo, but it didn't seem to work so well for the wbr neuropathy.

Your friend will eat!!! The decadron will make sure of that. I couldn't stop eating, but that's calming down now thank goodness

My head ached too (still does) and I became exhausted as the treatment went on, but I must honestly say I felt the worst after the treatment was over. So it seems like what your friend is going through is kinda normal with the side effects.

Please send my regards and tell her to hang in there!


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 12 2008 at 9:53pm
Thank you, Ferne! Hot feet, huh? hmmm....
She just text messaged me that she had a sleepless night and hopes to rest this morning.
Did they give you anything for the neuropathy and if so, what? The doc said that the neuropathy is normal because the rads affect the nerves. But that should resolve itself over time. So...that's good...for you, too!
She's eating but not stuffing herself. Of course, she's in the hospital so she doesn't like the hospital food and hasn't yet requested any cravings as she is afraid to eat too much because she thinks the steroids are giving her gastro problems.
Oh..I see you wrote Vit B6. It didn't work though..but I'll mention it to her anyway. She said that sometimes if she takes something it psychologically works for her so....
I told her you worked straight through and she has no idea how you did it. Me neither!
I will send your regards to her. She already knows your name!
Be well and hope you are feeling better as the days go by...I know you said it seemed worse after the treatments but...
Have you started the chemo yet?


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 14 2008 at 12:59am
Hi Deb,

Your friend should be  almost done right? No rads on Friday and Saturday?

The B6 worked for the chemo (taxotere and abraxane) related neuropathy, but not the rads neuropathy.

The decadron messed up my sleep big time. There would be a period of about 3 hours where I'd be close to unconsciousness, I'd be so tired, nothing could wake me up. Then when I'd wake up, I'd be awake for a long time. I'd be really tired, but not able to sleep. It was really annoying, but my sleep patterns are returning to normal. In general, I'm doing much better than I was 2 weeks ago.

I see the onc on the 22nd, but I know I need to start chemo soon because I'm having symptoms and pain in the lung and skin area again.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 14 2008 at 3:11am
Hi Ferne...
Actually, this is her first week of WBR. She will be off of it Friday and Saturday and then back on for the second week. She sent me a text message this morning that she was feeling yucky. I understood she didn't want to talk to me because I sent her a text back and she didn't answer it. Maybe she got some sleep. I hope so. I'll try her again later.
Yes..I understood about the B6 but maybe it would work for her..ya never know!
I'm sorry you are getting pains again, although it sounds like you are recovering well from the WBR so you will be strong enough for the chemo. At least you've got one thing that seems to be progressing in a positive light, right? Keep smiling, dear Ferne. I'm rooting for you!!!
Question...you have your mets listed in your signature with "more nodes". What do you mean? What nodes are getting affected? Do they see the nodes in a PET scan?
Feel good, Ferne.
 


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 14 2008 at 4:26pm
Hi Deb,

Yes, I understand feeling yucky. There were times when I didn't want to talk to anyone. I just wanted  to lay down and not be disturbed.

I so glad I'm feeling better. It would be horrible to feel that way and have to do chemo. I don't think I could handle it.

More nodes means that there was progression in the mediastinum and paratrachael nodes; They increased in number and size, then lumps popped up in my neck nodes and collarbone, and in December, I got a bunch of enlarged lumpy nodes under the non bc arm while on Abraxane. But the most recent CT scan shows that the Abraxane shrank the lung mets and reduced the size and number of  the mediastinum, paratracheal, neck and collarbone nodes. That's weird that some nodes would shrink and other ones would pop up at the same time.

All of the nodes could be felt except for the ones in the chest and lung areas. Those were seen by CT scan.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 14 2008 at 9:47pm
hmmm..that IS weird that the chemo would shrink others but more popped up. It's sometimes so mysterious.
Is it possible that they aren't cancerous but rather fighting the treatments or I don't know...
My brother, on a routine chest x-ray found an enlarged node. They did a biopsy and it was some non-cancerous condition that doesn't need to be treated. He was happy about that but when they did the biopsy they injured his vocal chords and he can only speak in a whisper. He's having a prosthesis put in to stimulate the vocal chords at the end of the month.
That is O/T but your nodes reminded me of that. I guess with mets, though, they assume it's the cancer...
I am also very glad you are feeling better and can get on with the chemo treatments, which I hope go well for you.
Keep us posted, as I'm sure you will...


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 16 2008 at 3:29pm
Hello Deb,

How is your friend doing? Just another week to go right?

I seem to have progression every 3 months or so, which means that it's time  for a new chemo. The new nodes did pop up in that timely fashion. Usually we assume it's progression because the other nodes were. At this point I'm tired of biopsies and any extra prodding and poking, so that's ok by me.

I'm sorry to hear that about your brother. Will he get his voice back with the prosthesis?




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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 16 2008 at 11:48pm
I hope my brother gets his voice back. It's so annoying. He was very angry because he said that if he hadn't been such a "good boy" and gone for his yearly physical, he'd never had known and he'd have a voice. We hope the prosthesis will work. He gets this put in at the end of the month.
 
My friend celebrated her 54th birthday yesterday. She's still hospitalized til the end of the week but her family took her out for lunch and cake and showered her with gifts AND her girlfriend's daughter had her baby yesterday! So, my friend was in high spirits and feeling better. I was so happy to hear that. She was so excited that she wrote me text messages during the night, saved them and sent them to me in the morning!
 
I wish she would just go home and not stay "sick" in the hospital but this is actually her choice as she's scared to be at home since it's kinda far from the hospital.
 
Okay..so now I understand why they would just assume it's all progression for you. Timely fashion, huh? Maybe they'd like to get OUT of routine??? *sigh*. This disease stinks.


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 19 2008 at 4:03pm
Hi Deb, I would  be angry too, if they messed up my vocal chords.

Please wish your friend a belated happy birthday for me. It's nice that she was able to enjoy the day.

Sounds like she feels safer in the hospital. I know that it was helpful to me to have people around because I really needed more help than usual during that time.

I'm getting tired of having bc. It's always something...but I'm hoping this new chemo will work a little longer than the others.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 20 2008 at 5:36am
I just spoke to her. She said she feels better and will return home tomorrow but her family laughs at her that she's a bit foggy..laughing in a fun way to cheer her up. She sounds good and feels better now than she did when she started the WBR.
Her question is: she hasn't lost her hair. Will she lose it afterwards? She's got two new wigs waiting but no change in hair.
 
She said she will need to wait 3 weeks then they will do a follow up brain MRI and if all is well, she will start xeloda with something else..they haven't decided yet.
 
I can understand you being tired of having bc. It has gone on enough for you. You really have gotten a bad deal with it. You are right..seems like there is always something! I also pray that the chemo will work and you'll get a break from this. You are in my thoughts and my friend sends her regards to you and thanks you ...AGAIN!
 
Hang in there, Ferne.


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 20 2008 at 2:23pm
Hi Deb,

I'm glad you're friend is feeling good.

My hair didn't actually fall out on it's own. I didn't have much left from the chemo, but my hair got very loose. If I gently tugged at it the hair wound up in my fingers, so I just shaved what was left off. Maybe she'll not lose her hair? And Xeloda didn't make my hair fall out either.

Thank you for your prayers. I sure need them.

I'm hanging in there, it could be alot worse than it is.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 20 2008 at 8:38pm
Well, you've got my prayers, Ferne. Of course it could be a lot worse! That is something we could say for just about anything. But, you deserve to be feeling better and to get a break. Stils..with all you are going through, you've really been such a help to so many women here. I just wish you an easier journey from here on out...
 
My friend should be returning home today. I'll report back to her about her hair. Interesting. She may be donating wigs very soon!!!! And going to dye the hair that she has growing from her chemo.
 
She will smile at that, I'm sure.
 
Thanks Ferne! Feel good.
 


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 21 2008 at 12:42am
Soooo...I just spoke to my friend.She will be going home today but..she is foggy, confused and she thought I was angry with her. I have never ever been angry with her. I know it's the side effects of the steroids and the fact we can't hear each other that well via cell phone and she had other people in the room with her, etc (though she called me..I had texted her).
 
I told her to be patient, that before she feels less foggy she may get foggier/confused. She told me to keep reminding her of that. I feel so badly for her!


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 21 2008 at 8:39pm
I was also very foggy upon completing the  rads. It took a while for my head to clear up. I am mentally sharper now, but still have some moments. Please tell your friend that and that once she is completely off of the Decadron, she will start to feel better.

Also, that decadron affects your the big time. I'm usually a very easy going, patient person. That decadron made me short tempered. I just didn't have the patience to deal with people. And I felt as if I was snapping at people. I just pretty much wanted to be left alone most of the time and didn't want to talk to anyone. I took up too much energy.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 23 2008 at 3:45am
She did say she was snapping at people. But, when she was on decadron for the Taxol, she was making plans to travel and once she was off, she got more realistic. Now she's making plans with me to join a class that I think we may do..but not yet..it's an art/craft class. But, she's not herself and she sound different on the phone, too.
 
She knows it's the meds. I told her to be patient.
Thanks Ferne!


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 24 2008 at 10:04pm
ugh..I got an e-mail from my friend this morning. She had a sleepless night apparently because it came in at 2 am. She hasn't been e-mailing me. We've been talking on the phone and we were texting, too, but she was having trouble texting. Talking hasn't been so great, either since it's not face to face..she lives over an hour from me.
 
Her e-mail...it was unclear what she was saying except that she wanted me to see that she has lost all "technical language" as she called it. She didn't have one word typed correctly and she was frustrated but did say that her family has been very patient with her and she was happy to see how they were with her. At least I think that's what she meant.
 
She is a bright woman. She's a social worker and treated patients privately as a therapist until all of this. She was supposed to return back to work part time last month.
 
I know it's the rads but this is really hard to take. She is dependent on me to understand because I'm a bc survivor. I do understand. I just am having a hard time with this.
 
Ferne..did you have this problem, too?


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: trip2
Date Posted: Feb 25 2008 at 2:11am
3neg I can see this is very difficult for you.Hug

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Stage 2 2003
Stage 1 2007
BRCA 1+


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 25 2008 at 2:24am
3neg,

I was and sometimes still am a big ball of cognitive mush! It was such a blow to me that my brain and thinking functions were impaired because my intelligence, organization, ability to communicate and memory were always strong points. It was a real downer to go through what your friend says she's feeling and going through. But it got better. I was pretty darn sharp week before last and I felt pretty good. I work as the Production Manager for a small printing company and I have to think on my toes and make decisions.

During rads, there were lots of times that I couldn't talk on the phone. I couldn't think or put words together quickly enough to carry on a conversation. So I just remained silent and said uh huh alot. Then I'd get a burst of clarity and could talk, then I'd get tired and it'd be gone!

It was hard to get some people to understand that I was not the same since the brain rads and I could not do the things the same way as before. I think it was hard for my mother to understand or maybe it is some form of denial. She had me teaching her computer things and asking me all kinds of questions on the phone, I thought my head would explode. Some of my friends didn't get it either, but some did. As for typing, if I didn't go back and correct things, it would be just awful. It's better, but it was horrible. I also couldn't see for squat, but that's getting better, too.

As for work, all I can say is take time getting back into the swing of things. That brain rads takes only 10 or so treatments but takes a lot longer to recover from. It won't happen overnight, but it does get better.

It's good that her family is patient because I bet she feels awful about this. I know it's hard to watch your friend go through this, and I know you are a survivor, but it's a little different because you never had wbr.

It's like with my best friend who had non small cell lung cancer. We were diagnosed around the same time, but she was diagnosed with mets. I understood her feelings when we went though chemo and rads at the same time, but I couldn't understand about her intense physical pain and when she got brain mets until I went through it myself. She died last August, but as I am now going through these things, I understand how hard it must have been for her. I don't think I would have fully understood if I had not gone through it myself.

So yes, I very much had this problem. It's better, but not completely resolved...yet.  Please tell your friend I understand what she is talking about and  that she's not alone. Please tell her to hang in there. It gets better.

Hugs to you both


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 25 2008 at 6:17am
Your last words..that's just what I told her. Thank you so much for sharing all of this. You are right..I can't really relate but she feels that I can understand better than others..at least partially because I've been getting info from you.
 
Thank you so much...I'm so sorry about your friend. that must have been very difficult...


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: maxmom
Date Posted: Feb 26 2008 at 9:53am
Hi Ferne, just read your "story"....wow!  I just posted a question about anyone being on Ixempra which I just started.  Have you gotten around to starting on it yet?


Posted By: BrendaF
Date Posted: Feb 26 2008 at 10:27am
Maxmom, I remember reading from a few ladies on the mets forum in breastcancer.org about Ixempra.   I remember thinking that side effects sounded pretty hard, I think it was mostly stomach issues?  I know it's pretty new for BC treatment, so maybe they have/will find ways to alleviate se's.


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Feb 28 2008 at 10:15am
3neg,

How are you?

How are things going for your friend?


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Feb 29 2008 at 3:07am

Hi Ferne...

How are YOU?
 
My friend is doing okay. She's a trooper. She's having some problems with the lung mets and is coughing a lot. She was able to text message me better yesterday but when I spoke to her on the phone, along with a bad connection, she was hard to understand and she told me she was a bit confused.
 
But, she's managing. Now the cough is upsetting her.
 
Clumps of hair started falling out.
 
I hope to see her tomorrow, if I can. She lives far from me.
 
Thanks for asking...
 
I hope you are doing okay.


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: fd411
Date Posted: Mar 01 2008 at 3:40am
Hi 3neg,

I'm glad you're friend is hanging in there. Is she finished or home for the weekend?

When I had to take time off from chemo to do the rads, by other mets progressed quite a bit, especially my lung and mediastinal mets. The skin mets are waking up and hurt and burn too, and I have new lumps now, even a lump in the other breast not far from the new (now larger) nodes that I mentioned before. It seems like everything good the chemo did has been lost in the 7 weeks I've been off it. But my onc told me way back when I first got mets that we are at 55 miles per hour and the cancer is moving at 65 miles per hour.

I never had a cough with the3 lung mets, but have lots of pain. It's still not under control. I never thought I'd say I'm so happy to be on chemo again, but I am. Sometimes I feel pretty miserable, but the Almighty is carrying me along the way, and I am making it. I know there are others worse off than me, and I just cannot imagine how they do it. I just keep praying for strength.

Please send my regards to you friend. I hope you are able to visit her.

I hope you are well, too.


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Ferne
2006 - Stage IIIA IDC; TAC, lumpectomy, rads
5/07 Mets to lungs, chest, supe clav and axillary nodes
7/07 Skin mets, neck nodes
9/07 Liver mets, more nodes
1/08 Brain Mets, more nodes


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Mar 02 2008 at 12:07am
Ferne..you've been through so much! I can't relate but can feel for you and I wish there were more I could do for YOU! You've been so supportive to me and others while you are going through so much. I'm sure that being back on chemo is comforting..knowing you are doing something. I do remember that when I had chemo and got really sick, they stopped it and I had to take a month off. They almost didn't put me on the next chemo (Taxol) and I didn't get all 4 treatments of the AC because it almost killed me!
 
I remember being so upset and angry. So, because of this, I can relate to your relief at being back on the chemo.
 
I wish you well.
 
I did get to visit my friend. She has no voice, or barely, and this seems to be a se she gets when taken off the steroids. She's home and done with WBR and on Xeloda which has caused sores on her mouth.
 
She has little balance and walks slowly and carefully but she is a TROOPER. She refuses to be sick and wants to do whatever she can. Her doctor told her to rest her voice, she got home and CALLED me on the phone!
 
She has good support at home with her dh and family members. We are waiting til she gets to do the MRI and see if the WBR worked.
 
Her lungs were cleared out and she said she feels better than she sounds. Maybe the xeloda will help her.
 
Be well, Ferne.


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous


Posted By: 3neg
Date Posted: Mar 04 2008 at 4:01am
Ferne..how are you doing? I hope you are okay.
My friend just told me today that she is having a hospice nurse come in to help her and support her more because she's having a really hard time. She said she can't do anything at all. She sleeps mostly. I send her text messages on her cell so that I won't bother her and just to let her know I am thinking of her. Then she calls when she feels like it.
Can I still tell her she'll see the light at the end of the tunnel??? She's scaring me...


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Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face.
---anonymous



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