Healthcare and tnbc
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Posted By: ziggy0
Subject: Healthcare and tnbc
Date Posted: Apr 20 2009 at 3:39pm
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Healthcare is an issue that affects us all, particularly with our
shared diagnoses. Pam, you are so right that the subject belongs in
this forum. For those of you who might be concerned that the USA will have single-payer or some other foreign (and, dare I say, socialist-scented) new construct imposed upon us, perhaps endangering the huge profits currently enjoyed by the insurance companies (and particularly the top-hat administrators thereof), I have words of comfort for you. I edit an integrative-medicine journal and I can paraphrase for you an article that is currently in production. Integrative-medicine doctors held a summit on integrative medicine and public health last February in Washington, DC, hopeful that a more patient- and prevention-centered system of healthcare in the USA might be ushered in by the new administration. Unbeknownst to them, while their conference was being planned and implemented as integrative medicine's voice for healthcare reform, clandestine meetings were taking place elsewhere in the capitol city, and these gatherings had a different focus. Late in March these interests published a 5-page summation of their findings (http://www.alpha.org/NR/dronlyres/619B709C-7982-4BDA-9236-D305A5656FB5/0/HRDCommonGroundFINALEMBARGOED.pdf). More than the content, the composition of the group who created it is indicative of how this year's healthcare legislation will fall. Here is the list in full: AARP, Advanced Medical Technology Association, America’s Health Insurance Plans, American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network, American College of Physicians, American Hospital Association, American Medical Association, American Nurses Association, American Public Health Association, Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association, Business Roundtable, Catholic Health Association of the United States, Families USA, Federation of American Hospitals, Healthcare Leadership Council, National Federation of Independent Business, Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, and the US Chamber of Commerce. Insurance companies, entrenched interests, and medical alliances are well and fully represented while integrative-care proponents were not invited to the party. Will they prevail? Well, I haven't heard any talk of single-payer healthcare from the Obama administration. So, to co-opt the term from elsewhere, it appears that the stagnant quo will be the norm, and that big change is not on its way. If you are one of the lucky, covered ones, rejoice. But if you do not have the bucks or other access to insured healthcare (and in this economy your numbers will be growing), you will continue to be subject to COBRA, pre-existing conditions, or the roulette wheel of no coverage. -jackie- ------------- Dx IDC 8/08/2008 TNBC stg 2 grd 3 T1c N1 M0, Ki67 97% Neoadjuvant A-C, Taxol (failed), gemzar/carboplatin Lumpectomy 1/09, completed G/C 4/24/09 0/6 nodes positive Radiation 5 wks |
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Posted By: trip2
Date Posted: Apr 20 2009 at 4:41pm
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Jackie thank you so much for this information.
I have tried several times to light the link, probably getting tired so will look at it again tomorow.
I posted atleast 3 articles I l believe in the last few days regarding this subject matter and they are in the Resource section.
I don't see this as good news for my sister, that concerns me very much as her husband's employer is changing ins. companies and the 4 they have interviewed, none will take her.
She is one of those that fit the article I posted today. Her chemo comes in pill form. This article is predicting close to a quarter of chemo will be going in that direction. There is the glitch. Insuarance carriers will cover infusions but not pills or very little since it falls under pharmacy, not a good sign. We should all beware. Many of us could be faced with chemo in pill form one of these days and of course there are many already using pills. ------------- Stage 2 2003 Stage 1 2007 BRCA 1+ |
Posted By: ziggy0
Date Posted: Apr 20 2009 at 4:47pm
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Wow, Pam. I hope that chronic myeloid leukemia is easier to treat and banish than the acute version. Judging by the fact that it's at least treatable in pill form rather than by hospital admission, that seems hopeful for your sister. If she can get the insurance backing ... You know what messes everyone up, here and in Canada? The governments. Here they are controlled by lobbies, there they are manipulated by foolishness. Well, that goes for here, too. Instead of trying to light the link, highlight and copy it into your browser window--that's what I had to do--it may have to do with the fact that it's a .pdf. You and your sister are in my thoughts. -j- ------------- Dx IDC 8/08/2008 TNBC stg 2 grd 3 T1c N1 M0, Ki67 97% Neoadjuvant A-C, Taxol (failed), gemzar/carboplatin Lumpectomy 1/09, completed G/C 4/24/09 0/6 nodes positive Radiation 5 wks |
Posted By: sibu
Date Posted: Apr 20 2009 at 5:28pm
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Jackie, I'm glad to see some new blood in on this discussion. We've had some rousing discussions on this board before regarding universal health care and have several very vocal advocates on each side of the issue. It's something some of us have agreed to disagree on. It will be interesting to see how Obama's version is proposed/played out. Keep feeding us those informative articles! Out of curiosity--Pam, does your SIL's situation change your views on the subject at all? ------------- Donna, age 42 Dx IDC 12/06, 5/18 Nodes + BRCA1+ Double mast. 1/07 Chemo 6 X TAC 6/07, rads 10/07 Hyst./Recon. 12/07 |
Posted By: trip2
Date Posted: Apr 21 2009 at 5:19am
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Jackie I did cut and paste several times, no go.
Donna it is my sister, my last relative left. NO, no national healthcare. There has to be other answers.
Get the abusers and illegals off the system so that people like my sister who honesly need help can get it. She is getting turned down everywhere. Even the drug companies have their little "glitches".
People are beginning to turn down healthcare and scans per the article I read yesterday.The reason is because the cost of doc visits, hospital bills, health scans have become out of reach even with a co-pay. Those are too high and we can't afford them anymore either.
How many dead bodies does it take to cause those of greed to get the idea?
Get rid of the baggage and let's take care of our own who genuinely need help and go after these greedy docs, etc.,. I myself am trimming down my care. I don't want to do that, I have cancer, CHF, serious issues. People everwhere are doing that with serious problems, this has to stop. ------------- Stage 2 2003 Stage 1 2007 BRCA 1+ |
Posted By: ziggy0
Date Posted: Apr 21 2009 at 6:53am
Did you try inserting an 'http://' in front of it? Alternatively, go to Google and insert the url, with or without the 'http://'. It worked for me so I know it is there (the article exists, in other words). Donna, I'm not sure my 'new blood' will have much effect, it is so vitiated from the chemo. (Little joke there.) As I said, I don't know what the answers are, but I know that as things are here, in the USA, healthcare is (often) not working right, and from what I hear from our neighbors to the north, healthcare is (mostly) not working right. Here insurance company execs make obscene profits from intervening between patient and doctor. (And, yes, some doctors make obscene profits as well.) In Canada, mere breast-cancer patients die while immigrants undergo expensive testing for the top three diseases de jour. Pam, this country is the only 'developed' one in which people can and do go bankrupt under the unbearable burden of medical debt. Can you repeat (I'm sure it would be repetition) once again why it is that you are so adamantly against government-sponsored healthcare, or, better yet (for your typing fingers!) point me to the place(s) where you explained your stance before. People say the government can't do anything right but if it ploughed one-tenth the energy it instead dedicates to war and 'defense' (more than the next 10 nations combined) and forcing 'democracy' down other peoples' throats at the point of a gun, I'll bet we, the people who pay and pay and pay for all that, would be doing a whole lot better. Expand Medicare and Social Security--Despite what New-Deal demolishers will tell you, those programs have done well providing safety nets (and in the case of Social Security would do a whole lot better if Congress was not enabled to steal, interest-free, from it at will). Well, off I go to get that suture knot removed. Paid for by insurance as long as my husband's employer is willing to shoulder that burden--as more and more employers are not! -jackie- ------------- Dx IDC 8/08/2008 TNBC stg 2 grd 3 T1c N1 M0, Ki67 97% Neoadjuvant A-C, Taxol (failed), gemzar/carboplatin Lumpectomy 1/09, completed G/C 4/24/09 0/6 nodes positive Radiation 5 wks |
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