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Lauriejn
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Posted: Oct 31 2008 at 6:22am |
Amen Ronda!
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Posted: Oct 31 2008 at 12:59pm |
Hi Jan,
I know what you mean, it's easy to panic when we start thinking about the possibility of death by cancer.
By the way, I plan on raising those TNBC numbers....they totally piss me off. We need to get healthy, stay healthy, and be aggressive with our treatment the first time around. Our biggest problem is the docs showing the other BC stats to the new gals and having unknown BRCA's make the mistake of keeping their breasts and radiating them to boot. Now I'm no rocket scientist, but I know stupid when I see it. My onc, who is on the national bc board said the oncs are being more aggressive with all triple negs, and encouraging mastectomies, you wouldn't know it by this site. I think lumpectomies are fine for the other bc's but not triple negs, but to date no one has made me queen of the forest! There are alot of us out there, and there will be a lot more....don't ever think it's hopeless.... we have to live just to make a point damn it! :0)
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Posted: Oct 31 2008 at 1:56pm |
Ronda,
Everytime I see where a gal has chosen a lumpectomy and not a mastectomy, I just get a lump in my throat. Lori's onc said that he sees the "return" of those with the lumpectomy. Not just TNBC's either...bc+.
Flutist (Rae), when she was on the site kept telling the gals...do all that you can. when you are dx...get everything that you can....to assure it will not come back. If you are BRCA+ then you had better do just that. Some of those who are 20 years out had bilateral mastectomies and chemo for a year. Talk about aggressive!
I know there are gals on the site who are years out and have had a lumpectomy and they are doing well....no recurrence...no mets.
Lori has a friend who was dx and she was having the BRCA testing, before she decided anything, and I don't believe that she was TNBC. Of course we know that ...what...85% of BRCA+ are TNBC gals. My husband's sister had bc 13 years ago, had a mast. and is well. She has early stages of dementia...but no bc or mets.
If the oncs are being more aggressive then why are we seeing or hearing from gals who are told that lumpectomies are the way to go? They are told that if the tumor is small, then they don't need mastectomies. Yet....we are told that the smaller tumors may be the most aggressive.
Nancy
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Lumpectomy due to incorrect dx of a cyst
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Posted: Oct 31 2008 at 2:25pm |
Hi Nancy,
You said it! If the goal is to survive without mets, recurrance or a new cancer.....then be aggressive as possible with treatment. The thought of being stuck in a perpetual state of fear and loathing was just too much for me to take. I've done all I can to get it gone and remove anything where it could possible grow again. If at the end of the day it didn't work, I will know I did all I could to stop it!
Ronda
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Posted: Oct 31 2008 at 3:50pm |
Ronda and Nancy,
I really appreciate all the passion that is transimitted in your posts ~ but please be gentle to those of us who had lumpectomies on the advice of surgeons and med. onc. who were giving us the best data available at the time.
I have two 5 year survival stories for TNBC ~ one chose lumpectomy plus RT, the other had bilateral mastectomies and no RT....both had TAC in two different formats. They are 5 years out this fall! and knowing them both calms me down quite a bit....but
when I see emotional posts about the need for mastectomies it marginalizes me, and really makes me second guess decisions made 9 months ago.
be gentle, Kathy 
Edited by kmartin - Oct 31 2008 at 3:51pm
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Posted: Oct 31 2008 at 5:01pm |
Hi Kathy,
I'm sooooo sorry that I said anything that made you feel marginalized. We all made the decisions we made based on the information that we had at the time.
The reason Nancy and I frame our very redundant conversations the way we do is to make sure th lurkers are getting the information they need to make informed decisions. Unfortunately there is a huge variation of treatments being offered to triple negatives that are jeopordizing lives. Though there are women out there who have taken lumpectomy as an option I still feel the question needs to be raised to the women currently seeking treatment as to whether or not it is a good idea. I know others may start second guessing their treatment as a result of these posts, but my intentions are directed toward the newbies considering treatment options.
We are all in this together and everyone of us have a vested interest in seeing that the information get out there on this particular brand of breast cancer. I have copied a post that shows statistics on the bc survival with mastectomies.
Again, I am very sorry if I offended you and will try to soften my razor sharp tongue. I wish only the best for everyone and will work on my delivery......but I'm such a raging rebel...it will be difficult!
Ronda
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Posted: Oct 31 2008 at 5:37pm |
That is one of the shall we say unfortunate things about TNBC as it is for hormone positive bc.
We all make our decisions based on what information we have at the time and that is the best we can do. But I imagine most of us have had a belly drop occasionally by reading a report or study result about something they had, say the type of chemo and what it might do or it might not work for tri negs. I certainly did when I learned later on about Adriamycin after I had already had it. I was not a happy camper but what could I do. I'd rather know then stick my head in the sand. That won't do me any good.
Information for breast cancer is constanly moving along which is what we want but I am afraid we will all run into an article or conversation talking about what might be the latest and best thing to do and it might frighten us. It is just part of this madness and wanting to be empowered. If you want to learn about your tri neg you have to brace yourself cuz occasionally you will not like a certain report that came out that day.
Ronda's link if you read it is favoring double mastectomy for younger bc patients but not older women. Well you see this is another example of an article I can read and my first thought is well crap, I didn't have to have that mastectomy after all! I am 62 yrs old and even though I'm older I have no plans on going anywhere and I hate reading that such a drastic surgery meant nothing for me, you certainly can't go back. On the other hand, in 6 months they could change their minds again. 
We want improvements, changes, new ideas on what is best for tri neg bc. This is good, obviously we need changes badly.
Kathy I am so sorry if you have been offended, we try to get the newest information out there to the new ones being diagnosed and it can be scary sometimes for the rest of us who have already been thru treatment.
We wouldn't be a very good forum if we decided not to post anything that we thought might hurt someone's feelings, we have to go with the latest facts period.
I was told in 03 that lumpectomy was an excellent choice since according to my surgeon I had a 95% chance of never having cancer again.
Ahem, guess what, 4 years later it came back on the other side. Guess what again, the same surgeon wanted to do a lumpectomy again and I had made up my mind by then I had had it and wanted a double mastectomy. He talked and talked to me but I wouldn't budge. I'm not happy that I had to have a mastectomy but feel I did the right thing. He still hangs on that dang 95% it won't come back. He is so wrong. Also after my surgery I found out I was BRCA 1 + so that just put a stamp on my mastectomy as doing the right thing like it or not.
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Posted: Oct 31 2008 at 6:08pm |
Kathy,
I in no way meant to offend you by anything that I said. Every day I am on this site, and every day we have a new gal or two join. This Bc is an epidemic of enormous proportion. TNBC is a very aggressive form of BC. I learned that very quickly when Lori was dx.
This site is unlike any other bc site that you will get on. We have new information every day. Pam posts everything that she can find to help not just the new gals, but also those who are sitting there waiting "for the other shoe to drop". This is a site to vent, to talk, to give loving support and to receive information, which just may save your life.
In my entire life I have always believed that the truth will prevail. We tell the truth here, and if you read Pam's post, and Ronda's post and then read CarynRose's posts, you will see that these gals want only to get the truth out there. They do not want you or any other gal to have to experience this beast more than once.
Lori just got her results from the BRCA testing and she is negative. Had she been positive, she would have done everything possible to ensure that she would not have a recurrence or mets. She knew what she would have to do based on all the information I have given to her from these intelligent, truthful women.
Connie said it best....we give evidence based cutting edge information. We are truthful. Pam has done so very well in researching for us, and no other site has this resource.
There are women and others who never become a member...they just lurk However, by repeating the truth over and over then perhaps we can make a difference, if in even one person's life.
I too am like Ronda...a raging rebel...and also like her....a loving caring raging rebel. We will change these TNBC statistics....one gal at a time!
Love and hugs,
Nancy
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Posted: Oct 31 2008 at 7:30pm |
No one wants to offend, however the impression certainly is that you are not giving any credence to those of us that have had options other than mastectomy's. Even to the point of letting us know our Dr.'s could not be as on top of it as your dr.s' or your opinions.
We all have our own truth and have to live with our choices. Are you saying that those that do have reccurances are not treated aggressively enough?Or were not? Didn't many of them do the best they could at that time? We are made to feel responsible enough for having breast cancer and now we have to feel even worse or guilty that we are not having mastectomy's.
The study cited was brought up at the 2008 conference but it was taken from 1998 thru 2003. We all know how much has changed since then. How many times I've read on this site don't use anything over 3 years.
Having a BRCA status does change everything. But not all of us fall into that. I feel by your statements, I would be considered an anomaly. According to many of your standards. I have been treated medically, all wrong. I don't get scans. I didn't have a mastectomy. I didn't do dose dense. I only had 4 tx. I did only AC. I wasn't completely miserable. Zofran was acceptable.
At the time of my tx, that was all they had, that is what was protocol. I think it is a crap shoot for all of us. I had hoped to give people on this site hope and to learn more about TN, which wasn't even named until 3-4 years after I had it !
I feel badly for the newbies that haven't the experience and are fearful enough with their dx. that they have to have more fear, in the name of truth.
I know the intentions are the best but what is wrong with being a bit more gentle and allowing those of us that have chosen or were given different treatment options credence and that we too go to dr.s that are competant.
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Posted: Oct 31 2008 at 10:04pm |
Hi Kirby,
Your points are well versed and taken to heart. In fact my doctors told me the same thing regarding lumpectomy vs. mastectomy, the conclusion I came to was based on "the other" information out there. This is why I urge women to go beyond what their doctors are saying and make a decision based on more than just one medical opinion. The "assembly line" of treatment that exists with BC does little to separate the 15% TNBC from the rest, even less consideration is given toward gene testing. Due to the innumerable posts on this site regarding the negligence of doctors, many here, including myself, have taken it upon themselves to make a change. Some will welcome this, some won't. However disturbing, the more informed the patient is, the more informed the doctor has to be. Many docs simply do not make a distinction between TNBC and "the other" BC's. Many women aren't even told they are TNBC let alone that gene testing may be a good idea. That is why this site was created, to create a platform of awareness. To help women survive TNBC.
It was my new oncologist, who is on the national breast cancer board, that mentioned as a side note that doing the double mastectomy as a BRCA 1 is now thought to be a good idea. This had changed from just 1 year ago when the opinion was close monitoring.
There will never be any absolutes when it comes to cancer in general as the discoveries are morphing daily, but with these dialogs we can volley the discussion back and forth so women new in their treatment can gleen information to make their decision.
Eventually we will all fall on one side of the other regarding these statistics, God willing with many lumpectomy long term survivors and mastectomy long term survivors, the difference however is that once the first 3 to 5 years pass, the mastectomies get to move on, while the lumpectomies get to wonder for the rest of their lives if every pain, rash, abnormality in their breast is BC showing it's ugly face again and if they're young or have an undiscovered BRCA 1 gene the chances of it happening are pretty good. That is the reality and many doctors simply don't mention it. This lingering uncertainty is not caused by noisy women on a site, it's there because it's real and it's relevant. If all of this has been discussed and women choose lumpectomies, more power to 'em! If not, they just heard it here.
I welcome and applaud your descent on this issue and look forward to more spirited, healthy discussions with no hard feelings I hope.
All the best,
Ronda
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Posted: Nov 01 2008 at 4:48am |
I must say some of the discomfort in these discussions DOES arise from the disquieting sense of whether or not I have done all that I can do....even if it makes me take a pause. Maybe that is a good thing!
I just read the article link about the benefits of contralateral matstectomy on younger women. What the study did not stratify for is gene mutation status...which I have not yet been tested for (but will be since my dad died of melanoma - linked with BRCA 2). So that is a negative element about the study ~ none are perfect. I am 48 so I barely meet the age requriement for "young", but I was pre-menopausal....until CT.
I will discuss this study with my med. onc. at my f/u on Thursday. I am not yet physically ready to consider any other treatemnts, since I am still working hard on re-conditioning my body after 7 months of treatments...but would like to hear his opinion. He is one of the BC specialists at a major east-coast university...so I'm sure he'll have one.
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Posted: Nov 01 2008 at 5:06am |
Kathy you are right, the article did not include women with a brca mutation.
Please let us know what your doctor has to say. We are all interested in learning all that we can.
Kathy you, ,me and many others went thru treatments with what we were told was the best we could do. We can't look back and say what did I do wrong, we have to move forward and it isn't always easy in this ever changing world of new information.
You, me and the other women who have had treatment cannot blame ourselves as we did the best we could at the time.
Good luck and best wishes,
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Posted: Nov 01 2008 at 8:19am |
Kirby,
I in no way mean to sound like I am not giving any credence to those of you that have decided on lumpectomies. It will be 6 years this December for me although it did come back last year. I too like so many others had a lumpectomy in 03. We can only deal with what we are told and a newly diagnosed women is probably going to be pretty much like me the first time and not realize that there might be other options or chemo. Of course you do the best that you can. No one is trying to suggest that if you didn't have a mastectomy than you did the wrong thing.
I would bet you money your doc is much better at setting up treatments than mine, believe me. Mine is a lost cause IMHO. I certainly would never suggest my Onc was better than someone else's!
Kirby I did not have scans the first time I was through with treatment and think the Onc suggesting an upcoming PET was just to shut me up. Otherwise I'm sure they would continue their practice of no scans.
It is a crap shoot for all of us. It seems no matter what anyone does at any given time there will eventually be an article saying that might have been wrong. We just have to gulp it down and know in our hearts we did do the best we could. No one has done anything wrong and I would never suggest that they have.
In the name of truth, Kirby I thought the purpose of this forum was to support, learn, help others with the newest information we can find.
You have been very fortunate in your years of survival and we greatly appreciate your posting and giving the rest of us hope and knowing there are long time survivors out there!
Respectfully,
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Posted: Nov 01 2008 at 10:19am |
P.S. I adore everyone on this site, and my jagged remarks are more to drive the point home TO LOOK INTO THIS TOPIC. This amazing discussion we continue to have is leading to great things and by no means is it meant to hurt feelings. For all the lumpectomy gals out there feel free to add to this very HOT topic. If we can't talk about it here, then where can we talk about it?
I confess that last night I did have chocolate and honestly me without sugar is a handful! So if I came across a bit too righteous, can I please just blame it on the chocolate?
I'd like to end this thread on a lighter, more positive note, if that can be done at this point.
So here is another really bad joke.
A bunch of guys were sitting around a camp fire exchanging hunting stories while Tongue Tied Joe sat quietly listening.
Finally one of the men looked at Joe and said "Joe, you've been awfully quiet this evening, don't you have a story you'd like to share?".
Joe replied with his ever so slight speech impediment "Not really.............All though there was this one time I was walking through the forest holding my gun when suddenly a bear jumped out and said ROARRRRRRRRR!"
Joe paused for a moment and looked embarrased.
One of the men said "What happened Joe?"
Joe replied "This is kind of embarrassing"
Another man said "Don't be embarrassed Joe, tell us what happend!"
Joe, still looking embarrassed said "I crapped my pants."
Another man said "Joe don't be embarrassed, if anyone of us was surprised by a bear, I'm sure we'd crap our pants too!"
Joe still looking uncomfortable said "You don't understand, I didn't crap my pants then, I did just now when I said ROARRRRRRR!"
If someone can find a moral in this please let me know!
Reconciliatory hugs,
Ronda
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Hello Ladies,
Perhaps I am in the minority but I was not told my hormone status until after I had my lumpectomy. As a matter of fact I did not know anything about hormone status until I was told by my rad onc one month AFTER lumpectomy that I was triple negative and would thus have to have chemotherapy even though I was stage 1. Is the hormone status normally determined at time of biopsy? If so why was it never mentioned to me? When I went to see the surgeon he explained that I had the option of a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. He told me that the recurrence rate was the same for a mastectomy and lumpectomy w/radiation and/or chemo. Sorry I can't remember exactly. After my lumpectomy he said everything was great - no nodes and clean margins but told me I'd need chemo so he must have known about the TNBC. I had no intention of having chemo until I knew my BRCA results (which turned out to be mutation of unkown significance). Again it was at my appt. with the rad onc (erroneously scheduled prior to regular onc appt. that I was simply told "you're triple negative you'll have to have chemo"). Of course that is when I first searched for triple negative breast cancer on the net and I've been here ever since. Yes, long winded as always. I've always thought I received very good care but this is very disturbing. When I met my regular onc on the first appt. he aplogized that I had not been scheduled to see him sooner and they started chemo just as soon as they got my port in.
So, did these guys totally drop the ball or what? It was the radiologist that told me my dx of IDC and never mentioned hormone status? Who normally does this, was it the surgeon's responsiblity or what? I suppose it's too late now but these guys need to get their act together. Just to be clear I was referred directly to the surgeon by the radiologist. I never saw an oncologist until one month after lumpectomy.
Darla
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Posted: Nov 01 2008 at 12:26pm |
Hi Darla,
I don't think you are in the minority. Both times I have been diagnosed I was not told a thing. The first time I eventually figured it out by researching online. When I was diagnosed again I had to ask my Onc if it was TN.
Alot of ladies have posted saying they were never told. Your pathology is done at the time they do the biopsy. I don't know if surgeon's would be as aware but an Oncologist should tell his patients. Maybe some of them think that would be overload for us since we simply wouldn't "understand" but women now are getting smarter so these docs need to realize that. We can handle being told we are TN.
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Posted: Nov 01 2008 at 1:20pm |
Darla,
Lori knew that she was TNBC when she had the screwed up lumectomy....the "cyst". She read her path report...and has not looked at it since. She saw that she had the p53 gene mutation and just lost it. That is the guardian "angel" gene.
Years ago a woman could not tell you what her status was....because she never asked. my husband's sister only knew that it was "aggressive". Since Lori is BRCA- then apparently it was not TNBC. I know women sho had bc 20 years ago and they have no clue as to the status. In fact, they look at me like I have two heads when I tell them Lori is TN. A friend of mine and Lori's has TN and she didn't know it was TN until Lori was dx!!
Nancy
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Posted: Nov 01 2008 at 1:25pm |
Darla,
After my biospy, I knew that I had IDC and it was a grade 3. It was after my surgery/lumpectomy, and the tumor was sent to the pathologist, that I was told it was TNBC and by my oncologist's nurse who called me. I had contacted my oncologist and made an appointment to meet/interview him after my lumpectomy. The pathology report was sent to him as well as my surgeon.
I don't know that this is unusal not to know what type, ie. negative/positive cancer we have until after it is removed-even though, a patient would want to know what type of breast cancer they have if they are receiving chemo first and then surgery.
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Thank You Ladies,
There is a lot of variance to be sure. I didn't see my pathology reports until I finished chemo. I asked for them because I never know how long I'll be in Bloomington and wanted all my records.
I agree Krisa that we should have been told before the surgery. I don't know if I would have chosen mastectomy but I certainly would have been better informed. My radiologist told me I was IDC and that it was grade 2.
Nancy, hearing about Lori's friend I guess I'm lucky the oncologists told me I was tn and that they understood that meant I'd need dd chemo. My onc also told me not to participate in a study where they do only partial breast radiation. He told me that being tn it was not a good idea. So I am happy with them. Perhaps it is the surgeons and radiologists who need to be better educated.
Pam, everytime I think about your stupid onc my blood boils. One thing I am very pleased about with my onc is that he never talks down to me or discourages me from educating myself.
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Posted: Nov 01 2008 at 4:46pm |
Hi Darla,
This is my point exactly! When I was diagnosed, I assummed it was estrogen receptor positive....after all most bc's are. I did all this research on ER+ and was avoiding soy and everything! When I went to see my surgeon she said no, that I had no receptors. She mentioned that sometimes this type of bc is genetic, BUT she didn't say what that meant either!! The ONLY reason she brought up my pathology was because I BROUGHT IT UP FIRST! I was actually relieved that I had no receptors because then I didn't have to take all that crap they want to give you after treatment! Ignorance is bliss! She went on to tell me the statistics regarding mastectomy vs. lumectomy, the same stuff they tell all their bc patients. I started doing more research and finally came across the term "Triple Negative". I opted for the mastectomy by luck because I didn't want to risk local recurrance and I didn't want radiation near my heart (and I do believe women are not fully told the long term and even permanent side effects of radiation). After my first mastectomy I mosied on over to the genetic counselor because THIS SITE recommended it. And though the genetic counselor thought my chances of being BRCA 1 were practically nonexisitant, she agreed to test. I had all ready deciced to remove the other boob to have semitry for reconstruction, the day after I made that decision I found out I was a BRCA 1. Given the circumstances I accidentally made good choices, thats "F"d up. AND as it turns out survival is increased for ALL young TNBC by doing this, regardless of BRCA status!
So the question I pose is why are some of the doctors handling this so poorly, and I believe the answer is becasue there are sooo many different types of BC, that they pretty much handle them all the same. I also pose the gals who end up with new cancer, recurrance and death could very well be the TNBC's in there cute little pool of lumpectomy statistics.
If I were queen of the forest I would handle it like this:
Once they have a pathology here's the next appointment:
Ms. Collins I have some bad news, You have breast cancer.
The type of cancer you have has no receptors, we see this type of cancer in young women and it is aggressive. You can have gene testing, which will help your family members and perhaps help you avoid ovarian cancer, however we have other statistics that show mastectomy increases survival with this type even in non-BRCA women. You need to understand that a lumpectomy is also an option you can explore, but it does have it's risks. Take sometime to think about it and perhaps do a little research before we decide about the type of surgery and treatment you'll be having. I hear there are a bunch of gals at this web site who are full of opinions!" It's that simple (o.k, it's not, but it's better than what most of us were told!).
Right now many women are being given lumpectomies and radiation and are being told that one is as good as the other with TNBC. Then they come on to this site and say "Why wasn't I told this stuff!" Many of us weren't, we learned by the school of hard knocks.
I pose that this is one of the reasons our statistics are worse than other BC's, we are simply NOT being educated about this type of cancer until after our treatment is over! How ridiculous is that?
Is it really ok for all of us to learn the hard way like Pam did by being blind-sided by another cancer, or wouldn't it be better to make informed decisions that increase survival from the get go?
It's an important topic and it stirs up a lot of feelings.
After careful consideration I decided the moral of my story is: When speaking in a group, be careful about getting too passionate or you could find yourself sitting in your own poop!
All the best!
Ronda
Edited by Ronda - Nov 02 2008 at 5:21am
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DX 3/07 IDC Trip neg, stage 2b, SN biopsy 3 node neg. No vascular invasion, Mast 4/07 AC+T DD Finshed 8/07 BRCA 1, Proph Mast 10/07. Reconst & Prophy Hyst. 10/08
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