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Topic: Just found out triple neg - help pls. Posted: Mar 18 2009 at 4:23pm |
I am a young 62, no family history of any cancer and had a call back on my yearly mammo on Feb. 20, 2009, leading to compression mammo and US - then Core needle biopsy. Diagnosed with 1.5 centimeter IDC - agressive - deep (but not on chest wall) but no other info. Met with highly recommended BS on March 4, MRI on March 9th (nothing else found but original cancer) and went for pre-op today for upcoming lumpectomy and Sentinal Node biopsy scheduled for March 25th. While at BS office, I was finally told my ER/PR info finally came in and it was all triple neg.! I felt as if the floor fell out from underneath me. I don't mean to offend any of you other triple n's, as I am sure glad I found you, but should I be as frightened as I am? I feel as though I am doomed and that there is no hope for me. Dr. said my nodes all looked good on mri, but of course would have to be biopsied at Lumpectomy. I even asked if both breasts should come off and she didn't feel that to even be a consideration at this point in time. Assured me that i would do fine, but could not get any benefit from the drugs the PR/ER + gals could. Please - anyone - before I jumb out of my skin, can anyone shed some positive light on this for me. I respectfully thank anyone that might reach out to one very scared and on the verge of panic, lady. Thank you so much.
Linda
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Posted: Mar 18 2009 at 4:44pm |
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Linda,
You have come to the right place and will learn much from the ladies on this board. Triple negative is not gloom and doom. Many more women survive it than do not, and your early stage diagnosis is a good sign as well.
I was diagnosed three years ago with three triple negative tumors in one breast. I had surgery, chemotherapy and radiation and am living disease free three years later. I even ran the Boston Marathon one year after chemo and my oncologist feels very good about my long term prognosis.
Take things one step at a time. Don't project yourself into a situation you are not in, and that you may never be in.
Take a deep breath, return to these boards to ask questions, get support and learn. Ask you doctor questions, get second opinions and pray.
Here is a link to another site which shows some articles about the triple negative diagnosis.
I'll pray for your health and that you find peace as you go through this. Just remember, take it one step at a time.
http://nosurrenderbreastcancerhelp.org/page9/page18/page18.html
Cathy
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3 tumors, triple negative, 6+CM, 0/13 nodes, stage 2b
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Posted: Mar 18 2009 at 4:51pm |
Dear Linda,
Take a deep deep breath...we are here for you. There is so much information on this site that you can print out and read, and many intelligent women to answer all your questions.
You will receive more info after your surgery and meet with an oncologist. The surgeon will not be the one to recommend what treatments you will have...it will be the oncologist.
Pam... trip2 is you age and I know she will reply. The trip2 is because she has been dx 2 times with TNBC. Maybe she needs to fill you in on what she experienced.
The drugs that you will not take...the Tamoxifen, is for after chemo. No the TNBC women do not benefit from that. However, I just read an article which stated that the Tamoxifen was cusing cancer. It is good to be HER2 as that is less aggressive than the HER2+.
You are not doomed Linda. TNBC responds very well to chemo, although the chemo is the same as they give to BC+.
We will give you info to take to the docs so that you can ask all the right questions, and know why you are asking them. It is my daughter Lori who was dx with TNBC June 2007.
The TNBC News, Resources & Tips forum is literally filled with many many articles and almost all related to TNBC. This is the only site dedicated to TNBC. Pam posts new articles every day.
My Lori could not even function for the first 5-6 weeks after diagnosis. If you have someone who could retrieve these articles from our resource forum, I know that would help you. We also have "questions for the doctors, and I will send you a private message with my email address so that I can send you directions on how to retrieve the information.
Hugs,
Nancy
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Lumpectomy due to incorrect dx of a cyst
mastectomy July 6 2007
chemo ACT all 3 every 3 weeks 6 tx Aug-Nov
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Posted: Mar 18 2009 at 5:12pm |
Cathy and Nancy - bless you both and much hugs. I feel better already. I just feel so alone and scared right now. Almost feel as though whatever I do will be a losing battle. I am never this negative a person and am hoping that with a few days of ativan in me, I will snap back and want to fight, rather than just wanting to dig a hole and jump in. You both have given me a glimmer of hope, as everything I read seems to negative when you are triple neg. I can't thank you enough for your responses. I am a widow raising my 13 yr. old grand-daughter and I just want to live to see her and my other little grands grow up. I know I am not anymore special than anyone else, but this new news has just set me on my a$$. Thanks again for being there for me.
Fondly,
Linda
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Posted: Mar 18 2009 at 5:34pm |
Dear Linda,
You will never be alone with this diagnosis....you now have friends you have never met! We all fear the unknown and the more you know - the less you will fear. You will understand exactly what treatments you will need - what you should get to help you....and be will be there for you every step of the way.
Remember we have been there, done that, got the bald heads and scars to prove it....but after our treatments - we grew our hair back (the breasts we had to buy or reconstruct) and we found out we are stronger than we imagined.
Please tell us what chemotherapy your doctor is suggesting and we will give you the information we have gained through our research and experiences.
Love,
Connie
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Posted: Mar 18 2009 at 5:39pm |
Linda,
Ahhhh but you are special....very special, and every member on this site is just extraordinary!!  You just stick with us, and we will get you through this unplanned...unexpected journey. You are going to find support like you never expected...personal, compassionate, and forget about this news just setting you on your a$$. You are gonna kick some serious cancer a$$!!!  get that ativan...and get on here and talk.
Many hugs,
Nancy
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Lumpectomy due to incorrect dx of a cyst
mastectomy July 6 2007
chemo ACT all 3 every 3 weeks 6 tx Aug-Nov
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Linda, I know EXACTLY how you feel! I was diagnosed on Feb 13, this year. All the fears and anxiety go right along with the urgency to "get it out yesterday"! I have to go through oral surgery tomorrow, before I can even start my chemo. My port will be put in on the 19th. And the chemo will start a week after that. I will have neo adjuvant chemo (before surgery) in hopes that the tumor will shrink. I am also going to do a clinical trial that includes Avastin. I have found a wealth of information here. The ladies of this site are an absolute Godsend! Feel free to ask anything, and the gals will do their very best in helping you find the answer. All my best hopes and prayers to you. We all are in the same boat one way or another. In numbers there is strength! Take a deep breath and take one day at a time. much hugs, Janet
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neoadjuvant chemo 8 rounds
Lumpectomy successful Oct 09
axillary node dissection Nov 09
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Posted: Mar 18 2009 at 9:03pm |
Thank you all, my dear new friends. You have all made me feel so much better. Haven't met with onc yet so I don't know what's in store as I'm having my lumpectomy and sentinal node testing on March 25, and when that pathology report comes in, BS will forward to onc. But I will certainly let you know as soon as I find out. The best of wishes and luck and tons of support and love to each of you. Good luck Janet - shrink that sucker to hell!
Hugs,
Linda
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Posted: Mar 19 2009 at 4:20am |
Linda,
Welcome to the site. You will find so much support and strength here, I know I have!
You are allowed to feel what ever it is you feel, its what you do with those feelings that matters. I found what works for me is I limit the amount of time I am "allowed" to feel the "negative" feelings. When I got my initial dx last June, I fell apart and gave myself a time limit for the self pity. Then after the time period, I think it was a weekend, I pulled it together, and moved forward. The same thing happened when I fully grasped the TN dianosis in early Feb. I spend a few days in sweatpants with no make up, then I made the decision to move forward. We all face things in our own way, but that is what works for me.
Since I have come to this web-site, I consider myself armed and dangerous. I am armed with the knowledge and support gained here whcih allows me to fight and kick a$$.
You are not alone!
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DX @ age 40 6/24/08 Stage 1 Grade 3 BRCA1+ 187delAG
BMX (nipple-areola-sparing) 8/5/08
Redo BMX (remove nipple and areola) w/ Lat Flap 7/6/09
BSO 9/3/09
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Posted: Mar 19 2009 at 4:40am |
Linda: I am just a few years younger than you but was no less surprised/angry when I was diagnosed on March 8, 2007...I just finished reading all the posts since you first posted here...and I alternatively laughed and cried -- what a remarkable group of tough smart women here!!  Do take things one day at a time. I have always been a Type A planner and goal-maker...looking ahead... when I was diagnosed, however, I just told myself that I would take off six months from 'biz as usual' to fight this cancer monster. Gave myself permission to cut slack on everything else and just focus on post-lumpectomy treatment. Don't get me wrong -- I DID work 40 hrs a week at my job thru out treatment [8 chemo's and 33 rads] since my husband resigned a job to come back to MN to keep me company thruout the ordeal-- and our health insurance was thru my job... but this all can be done. It isn't easy--there will be hell days but there will also be some clarity and re-prioritizing of what's important in your life... so get ready for a very big fork in the road of life but some very positive experiences as well... some surprising angels around you will perform random acts of kindness when you least expect it [ie, my hair had been gone for about two months when, in a grocery store, a handsome man walked up to me and told me how beautiful I looked that day in my scarf--wished me well and said his wife was 5 years out with no recurrence and he was SURE I would get there too] -- stay plugged in to this sight...lots of support and wisdom here... welcome...by the way I am exactly two years NED (no evidence of disease) now and it does get easier, even if the old fears pop up now and then... Dori
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Lumpectomy 4/11/07, nodes neg,
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Posted: Mar 19 2009 at 7:12am |
Linda,
Dear friend, we DO know how you feel! My tumor was almost the same as yours, 1.4 cm, and for the first month I had myself dead and buried. It scared the stuffing out of me. As I look back though, I consider it my wake-up call.
Yes, there are tough times ahead. The chemo they will be giving you are considered the "big guns." I figure that if I have to go to war (and this IS a war), I'd rather have the automatic rifle and not the pea-shooter. We triple negs respond very well to chemo, a lot better than our "positive" sisters.
You WILL survive this! All of these wonderful ladies here are proof of that. Please continue to come back, ask questions until you can't think of any more to ask. We'll answer them for you. And we'll be here each step of the way, holding your hand, and cheering for you when you're finished.
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Posted: Mar 19 2009 at 7:18am |
Hi Linda,
I would like to welcome you from another 62 yr old.  Actually I was 56 the first time diagnosed and 60 the second time and also am brca 1+.
I am still kicking butt and scouring the internet as much as my eyes will allow trying to find us news. Working on my second year since I had to start over but that is ok!
As you have been told, this is an amazing group of women, some have already been thru treatments and we are fortunate enough to have them still pop in to say hello and remind us that women do survive this very aggressive disease and we really appreciate their support.
Others are just beginning like you or partially thru their path. Then we also have the caregivers here who are interested in learning more about what type of breast cancer their loved one has been diagnosed with since as you know so many of us, the whole world, thinks there is only 1! Wrong!
When I was diagnosed the first time I didn't get online, I had a heavy family history and still the idea just didn't occur, why I have no idea. 
That was in 03 and talk about triple neg and brca 1 gene testing were just being whispered around but no one was really pushing the issue to inform anyone who might be at risk and I didn't know to ask.
Neither time was I told I had triple neg bc. That is a plus and good sign you were told!
Right before I was diagnosed the second time I had become familiar with what I had been diagnosed with and starting looking to my dismay only to find just about nothing on triple neg disease!
Then right after that I was diagnosed again, like a big punch in the tummy and mad, hurt, angry, freaked, oh my, they had made a mistake in my mammo report, come to find out I had another lump and boy oh boy you wouldn't have wanted to be in my path that day! 
To make matters worse the second time my daughter who was 39 at the time had been diagnosed the month before me so I had been devastated by her diagnosis then hit again myself and I was then ready to take on the world, look out here I come!
Then one day, I kid you not, out of the sky I came across this new Foundation and they had even been kind enough to give us a forum! I tell you, you would have thought I was a kid at Christmas! Finally, finally, there was actually a Foundation working to help us find answers for this disease and to top it off we women now had a place to come together and this has been my home and family now for almost 2 yrs. 
We now have HOPE because of this Foundation! They are doing amazing things for women just like us!
You will find the women here will all wrap their arms around you because they understand. Your feelings of having the rug pulled out from under you are now confirmed, others have felt that too and know what you mean! Your anxiety, fear of what is ahead, we confirm this is all true.
Now the tricky part is pulling yourself together and getting a grip. Absolutely you have a right to those tears, fears, pulling the comforter over your head (that was my fav) but eventually we have to move along if we want to get better.
So one thing I might throw out is take a mild sedative and try focusing on today, this hour whatever it takes to bring back the scope at what your mind is trying to look at, you cannot know what is out there only what is in front of you right now. It isn't easy. As things move along and procedures are done then it does sort of fall into place and we relax a bit.
That is what happens pretty much when we see the Oncologist. We need, you need to be prepared for this Oncologist, we call them the Onc for short here. This person is going to discuss with you what they think your best treatment would be and we want you to get to a place were you are atleast partially familiar with what they are saying in terms of what meds they are throwing out and what questions to ask. This is important Linda!
You are going to have to dig into this website and ask for help, do your research, know what others are getting in the form of chemo and some have rads, what treatment protocols work best for tri neg, that sort of thing. Alot of that information is right here in this forum but might take some digging. We will help you.
Nancy has worked very hard to provide new members with an amazing set of tips and hints for chemo and/or rads, speaking with your doctor, my goodness it will make such a difference for you and I will tell you why.
Because we are our best advocate. We hire this Onc to heal us. We want to hear the right words falling out of their mouth, we want to ask questions and feel comfortable with what their answers are, how they are behaving towards us, do they resent the questions, do they answer them without discomfort.
If we don't like this person we can find another and yes a second opinion is always a great idea if you live where one can be obtained easily.
Also I/we advise you get copies of everything! Scans, path reports, tests, bloodwork, office dictation, everything and start your own file at home.
When you get your copy of your path report look it over. Come online and ask us or find a reliable place to help you go over what it is saying.
Then you can take this as an example to this Onc and ask questions right from there. And any scan reports pre treatment. Trust me you will feel better. Because of our experiences of having been thru this and the things we have sometimes seen happen or experienced that were wrong we don't want this to happen to our new members so we try to forwarn you to be prepared and read your reports closely.
We have a tendency here to be honest so you may read things occasionally that are hard on the eyes and heart but that we seem to feel is better for us to know things than to not. This disease is very aggressive and you want to hit it with all the guns you can pull out right away, the first time.
We welcome you with love Linda and we will do all we can to help keep the fear away, you certainly are not alone.
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Posted: Mar 19 2009 at 7:37am |
http://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/types/ask_expert/2008_07/
Linda the above link is a good place to look also for information. If you type triple negative breast cancer into their search box it will pull up anything updated.
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Posted: Mar 19 2009 at 3:49pm |
To my wonderful new sisters Diane and Pam: I cannot thank you enough for your wonderful and insightful posts to me. As I have been wracked with fear and more fear, I can honestly say that you both have uplifted my spirit to a point of making me feel human and alive again. For this I can't thank you enough. The information is all so very informative and I will follow every word of it. I am scheduled for my lumpectomy and sentinal node biopsy next wednesday the 25th of March, so I am busy preparing for it while working until that time and raising my 13 year old grand-daughter, but will post as soon as I have it all done and come up for air. I can honestly say this is the first time in a few days that I have been able to take a breath and realize there is hope - and I owe this wonderful feeling to you fine, fine friends. I wish for you both all good things and succesful healthy futures.
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Linda
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Diag 2/23/09 IDC 1.2 cent. IDC right breast,Stage 1, Grade 3,0/1 nodes - Triple Neg
4 DD AC every two weeks, 1 Dd Taxol, then 3 Taxotere every three weeks - rads x 33
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Posted: Mar 19 2009 at 3:57pm |
Linda,
And now you too will be as Sara..."armed and dangerous".  Did you get all the ...quesions, tips, everything you will need? If not...just ask...and you shall receive 
Much love and light,
Nancy
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Lumpectomy due to incorrect dx of a cyst
mastectomy July 6 2007
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Posted: Mar 19 2009 at 4:23pm |
Got it all, Nancy and so much thanks again! Love to Lori.
Linda
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Linda - diagnosed at age 62
Diag 2/23/09 IDC 1.2 cent. IDC right breast,Stage 1, Grade 3,0/1 nodes - Triple Neg
4 DD AC every two weeks, 1 Dd Taxol, then 3 Taxotere every three weeks - rads x 33
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Posted: Mar 19 2009 at 4:34pm |
And to Sara and Dori as well - thanks so much for the posts - God, I needed them. I am beginning to feel as though there is much to fight for and with. Bless you all and continued good health. Will post after my lumpectomy next week.
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Linda
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Linda - diagnosed at age 62
Diag 2/23/09 IDC 1.2 cent. IDC right breast,Stage 1, Grade 3,0/1 nodes - Triple Neg
4 DD AC every two weeks, 1 Dd Taxol, then 3 Taxotere every three weeks - rads x 33
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Hi Linda! Welcome to this safe haven. My sister was diagnosed with TNBC in November 2008 at age 45 and for the first 6-8 weeks after her diagnosis I was depressed, panicked and overcome with fear. Like you, I had read about how "bad" TNBC is and my mind automatically went to the worst case scenario-- it didn't help that much of what you read on the internet about TNBC always talks about a "poor prognosis" with little attempt to discuss or differentiate among the many other variables and factors that make each person's diagnosis and prognosis individual to them. Anyway, we all know this is a challenging disease, but Cathy's (cweed's) advice is so true and really hits home for me too (thanks Cathy!), for those days when my mind wanders over to that dark place: Don't project yourself into a situation you're not in and may never be in! (I know it's hard not to do that, but I think it's really important to try to follow that advice.) As you firm up your diagnosis, stage and treatment plan, and gain more information, I am sure a lot of that fear will change into hope and action on your road to recovery.
You will gain so much great information from this forum and, equally important, incredible inspiration and support. It has been a godsend for me and I hope one day my sister will be ready to join too.
Best of luck on the 25th and please let us know what happens.
All the best, Josie
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Posted: Mar 20 2009 at 5:03am |
Hi Josie: Thank you so much for your kind supportive post, it is much needed and very appreciated! My sister is going through all that you described as you are. She is 5 years younger than me and just sick over this. Thank God for sisters, although I hate that she even has to go through the emotional turmoil of constantly attempting to keep me "steady on my feet" and not burying myself before I have even had my lumpectomy! I will keep you and your sister in my heart and thoughts as well. God bless each and everyone of us and lead safely through this tangled forest.
Love,
Linda
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Linda - diagnosed at age 62
Diag 2/23/09 IDC 1.2 cent. IDC right breast,Stage 1, Grade 3,0/1 nodes - Triple Neg
4 DD AC every two weeks, 1 Dd Taxol, then 3 Taxotere every three weeks - rads x 33
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Hi 58 TNBC .... I was writing an introduction and than read what you wrote Pam, all's I can say is I feel exactly like Linda and probably all of you here. I was told I had breast cancer Feb 9th; had a double mastecomy March 9th. No cancer in the right breast, 2.7cm tumor in my left breast, no cancer in the surrounding breast tissue, no cancer in the lymph nodes. I only learned this past Tues. that I had TNBC, my surgical oncologist mentioned the words Triple Negetive but that was it; she did not elaborate on the term TNBC. In my case, it has been like; every corner I turn; there is another person punching me in the gut! When I looked up the term TNBC I too feel like calling the Under Taker
Unlike Linda both my parents died of cancer, and I thought I knew all about it from a caregiver’s angle. But it's quite different when you are given those 3 little words. To coin what someone else said "It use to be I Love You were the most powerful words ever spoken, but today (for me) it is: "YOU'VE GOT CANCER".
I have my first Oncolgist appt. March 25th, and I sure could use some information, and the right questions to ask! Because what I've found so far is if you don't know the right questions you don't get the right information! So I sure would appreciate any and all help. Thank you all in advance!
OH OH !Also if I could ask.... as I said I had a double mastecomy, the only one that has seen my incision's since the surgery is the nurse that removed my drainage bulbs. My biggest concern is the swelling under the arm pits and now swelling where the incisions were. Is that all normal? Is there anything that can be done for the swelling?
Thank you again,
Bev
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