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Hi Steve,
Is the conference in Orlando just on BRCA? (I am negative brca 1/2) or will there be info on tnbc also?
 
I'm getting combo of cytoxan and taxotere. Just started 30 mg of glutamine a day for side effects of taxotere, fyi. It's supposed to help the severe back aches, etc. Anyone have success with it?
 
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2 rnds Taxotere/Cytoxan; 2 rnds A/C (after lung react to tax); 33 rads.
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Hi minniemouse,

Good luck with your treatments..I hope you feel better soon.

I will send you a PM with the info on the conference....

The main focus of the conference is for women who are BRCA+ and/or at high-risk for breast/ovarian cancer. One of the authors, Dr. Steve Narod, of the study I posted about previously will be presenting at the conference. I will put the link and abstract here again and maybe Pam/Nancy can make it "hot". I know that Dr. Narod is an expert on BRCA. I do not know if he is an expert on TNBC.

Everything at this conference above is geared to laypeople and many of the women there are BRCA1+ and have had or have TNBC. I think 85% of BRCA1+ women who have breast cancer have TNBC.

The Narod study of TNBC women who didn't qualify for BRCA testing but nevertheless 11% of them tested positive. I think it is absolutely imperative that TNBC women are informed of the link between BRCA(especially BRCA1) and TNBC..from reading a lot of posts here, certainly many women have tested...I assume (always dangerous to do) most of them have a profound family history pf breast/ovarian cancer but many do not mention it and perhaps have not been informed. Also, many physicians, still, unfortunately, have not heard of BRCA and if they have they do not know that it can be passed from a father, with no cancer, to his child...who then gets TNBC cancer as was the case with my 36 year old daughter.

I will be going to another conference that will definitely cover TNBC that will be in Orlando May 29-June 2. I will be going as part of an Advocacy training program because I want to become more knowledgeable about
cancer. It is the American Society of Clinical Oncologists annual meeting
and it will be very technical from what I have been told...I have to do a lot of reading and attend webinars before and it sounds like it will be particularly intense. My main mission in going is to find out more about TNBC and also prostate cancer. In fact I will post what I find out from some of the sessions here if it's o.k. with Pam/Nancy.

Narod group study-

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19298662?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

BMC Cancer. 2009 Mar 19;9:86. Links
The prevalence of BRCA1 mutations among young women with triple-negative breast cancer.

Young SR, Pilarski RT, Donenberg T, Shapiro C, Hammond LS, Miller J, Brooks KA, Cohen S, Tenenholz B, Desai D, Zandvakili I, Royer R, Li S, Narod SA.
Women's College Research Institute, Department of Public Health, The University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada. sryoung37@aol.com
BACKGROUND: Molecular screening for BRCA1 and BRCA2 mutations is now an established component of risk evaluation and management of familial breast cancer. Features of hereditary breast cancer include an early age-of-onset and over-representation of the 'triple-negative' phenotype (negative for estrogen-receptor, progesterone-receptor and HER2). The decision to offer genetic testing to a breast cancer patient is usually based on her family history, but in the absence of a family history of cancer, some women may qualify for testing based on the age-of-onset and/or the pathologic features of the breast cancer. METHODS: We studied 54 women who were diagnosed with high-grade, triple-negative invasive breast cancer at or before age 40. These women were selected for study because they had little or no family history of breast or ovarian cancer and they did not qualify for genetic testing using conventional family history criteria. BRCA1 screening was performed using a combination of fluorescent multiplexed-PCR analysis, BRCA1 exon-13 6 kb duplication screening, the protein truncation test (PTT) and fluorescent multiplexed denaturing gradient gel electrophoresis (DGGE). All coding exons of BRCA1 were screened. The two large exons of BRCA2 were also screened using PTT. All mutations were confirmed with direct sequencing. RESULTS: Five deleterious BRCA1 mutations and one deleterious BRCA2 mutation were identified in the 54 patients with early-onset, triple-negative breast cancer (11%). CONCLUSION: Women with early-onset triple-negative breast cancer are candidates for genetic testing for BRCA1, even in the absence of a family history of breast or ovarian cancer.

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http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/Meetings/ASCO+Annual+Meeting

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all the best,

Steve




Edited by steve - May 07 2009 at 7:00am
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Since I found out my "news" it seems like there are so many more newbies....makes me sad but glad we all have somewhere to come and vent and compare notes.  I will have my MRI on MOnday and from there at this point, depending on staging  there will be chemo then some kind of surgery (surgeon) he isn't making a decision until after MRI results are in.......
 
I was also sure something was wrong but having smoked for years before I quit 8 years ago, I thought and really expected lung CA...how shocked was I to discover the lump (in the shower) and then to get a TN diagnosis!!!!
 
Being 1 on America's 60+ uninsured I am dependent on the State of NJ and charity care to see me thru....lucky for me one of our metropolitan areas best Breast surgeon is my surgeon & I have full faith in he and the onc group also affiliated with the hospital where I will be treated.....otherwise I would be in limbo with no where to turn....they have been wonderful to me.
 
Lots of luck....more later,
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Steve this is so exciting to see you will be going to these conferences.  Oh my my the information will be everywhere, you lucky man!

We would love to hear anything that you would like to pass along.  We love news.

I would like to know how you feel about women or men posting their BRCA status in forums online.  I hear that it is not a good idea?

I have previously posted this info in the Resource Section, very important for all tri negs to read because they may all need to be tested if they fit the criteria.  Someone could be the first to learn they have the mutation in the family  if I understand my reading correctly.
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Hi Pam,

I will be happy to post whatever I can that seems pertinent...

Unfortunately, I believe it is still unwise to post your BRCA status online if the information can be traced back to you because although GINA now protects you regarding health care discrimination, life insurance companies can still discriminate against folks who are BRCA+.

I have so many health issues (especially diabetes, AFIB) that I can't get life insurance anyway, anymore....so I post my status and I speak at events under my name. It is more important to me to get the word out than be anonymous. I totally understand, though, that many don't want to be open about their status..and also many folks want their cancer experiences to be private...I was at a conference last year and a woman came up to me from Australia. "I have been reading everything you wrote for the last three years and I have not posted and will never but I wanted to say thank you." I saw that she had just written "Guest" on her name-tag...so everyone handles things differently and I feel that it is so incredibly sad that many in our community have to "hide" but things are better I feel with GINA. Also, there is a good book out "Pretty is What Changes" by a lovely woman, Jessica Quellar, writing under her own name to get the word out..also a documentary "In the Family" again by a wonderful woman, Joanna Rudnick, again telling the story under her own name.

Both of them feel that "knowledge is power", as do I.

I personally feel it is very important to let your heath care provider (especially if you understand their coverage..which admittedly can be a maze) know that you are BRCA+ as it can make a huge difference in your surveillance protocol. But once you do, you may jeopardize your life insurance coverage..But, I believe, once you have cancer you will have difficulty getting decent life insurance anyway. My daughter was told to not even apply.

Back to surveillance- it has been shown that MRIs sometimes catch tumors at an earlier Stage particularly in younger women with dense breasts...Since so many younger BRCA1+ women are at risk for early-onset triple-negative breast cancer an insurance company may pay for a breast MRI which hopefully will find a cancer at an earlier, more curable Stage thereby saving the insurance company money if the cancer is found at a more advanced Stage. I do not believe the tests are paid for by insurance companies based on a altruistic feeling about women...it is all about the money, in my opinion. An insurance company who might refuse to pay for an MRI under "normal" circumstance may pay for it if they know there is a BRCA+ woman involved.

and yes MRIs can be problematic with so many false positives...nevertheless it seems the large cancer centers in this country are moving towards MRIs as the first surveillance tool with high-risk women...particularly younger women..

Pam, again I must thank you for everything you are doing for the TNBC community...I hope you are feeling a bit better..

all the best,

Steve






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Thank you so much for this website.

I had surgery 3 years ago in Japan (stage 2a, lymph x1) and got chemo (AC x 4).
3 years later, my cancer moved to my right lung (x 1) and lymph node (x 2), march 09. so I will have Taxotere from next Monday.
I am really afraid about...."Is Taxotere effective for my situation (return of cancer for TNBC?)?"

I would like to know the latest way what kind of chemo in the US for my situation. As far as I know , I can not get the latest way here in Japan because of "drug lag".

thanks for reading

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Love the idea of you getting another opinion. I currently have your same diagnosis ( no suspected node involvement) and am going to a very popular cancer center in Houston :) (notice how I didn't use the name?)..haha.... My treatment plan is 3 months chemo ( paclitaxel) then 3 more months FAC ....THEN surgery...
chemo first allows for the shrinkage of the tumor/tumors and for immediately beginning to kill cells. I have had 6 treatments of Taxol ( paclitaxel) so far ( out of 12 treatments) and the size has already shrunk ALOT....which will leave me most likely at an advantage for a lumpectomy vs mastectomy....Hey, not sure about you, but I'm all about keeping my own "natural" boobies :)   Certainly not saying the opinion you have received is a bad one, but I just didnt care for the idea of you having an instant mastectomy then chemo, unless of course there is more info I am unaware of that would call for this action...None the less....We will come through this girl!!

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Hello Melissa in JPN, it is so nice to have you join our forum although I very sorry to see you've been diagnosed.
 
OH and now your lung and lymph mode, well you can do it, get rid of this nasty stuff.  I do know Taxotere is a tough cookie.Smile
 
Melissa post in the recurrence, Metastasis forum section.  There will be more women there who have had c come back and be more knowledgeable about what is going on.
 
Keep us posted and I will look forward to your post in the mets section.
 
 


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Steve you do know that what you said regarding mri's and how the insurance companies could save themselves some money in the long run is opening a can of worms don't you?Wink
Boy there are alot of things they could do, absolutely baffles me.  Where they could save money in the long run and of course help a person out (think they forgot that part) needing a scan of some type, no no they refuse.  What nonsense and we can't hardly make it w/o them.
 
I too have enjoyed your input into this forum Steve and appreciate your time and information.  You are always a fascinating read.Smile
 
The legs are still a bit cranky but we are working on it, have a check-up Monday.  Thank you for asking!
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good luck on Monday, Pam...

enjoy your w/e

thanks for the kind words..much appreciated..

all the best,

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Dear Dawn,

I have posted, several times, a recent study indicating that early-onset triple-negative women should consider testing for the BRCA mutation.

Have your doctors (I assume at MD A.......) talked to you about this link and suggested you meet with a Certified Genetic Counselor? I believe they have a high risk hospital at that excellent institute..

please ask them about it if it hasn't been discussed...the time you are doing neoadjuvant chemo might enable you to test..

good luck to you..

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Hi! Dawn.

Thank you for your kind message.
I'm asking third opinion to the Hospital in Houston.(maybe same of your's )

I will let you know my situation after my first chemo.
thank you.

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Hi! Pam

Thank you so much.
Actually I try to go "Metastsis forum section" many times but failed.
So I'm happy if you could tell me how to go there in detail...

I'm very happy to be here with you.

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Dear Melissa,

I am new here but I will try to help you

on the top of the posts in the middle there is something called TNBCF forums...click on that and you will see a page with the different forums
scrolling down you will see "TNBC Metastasis/Recurrence Users"

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I am not a medical professional/doctor but I feel that M.D. Anderson Hospital (which consistently is ranked as the number one cancer hospital in the U.S.) in Houston is a VERY important facility for second/third opinions. They are set-up in a very professional way to do this. I was there a year ago with a dear friend (age 42) who had colon cancer and their opinion was different than his doctor in Las Vegas. He followed their advice and is doing well..One of the most difficult things for a patient is when you have conflicting advice and have to choose especially if your original doctor does not agree and makes you feel bad for even thinking about it. I don't know the customs in Japan but in Hong Kong (my daughter-in-law's parents are Hong Kong Chinese) if you go to another doctor for a second opinion you may actually lose the first..it's an awful system. Stay strong, please, and see what M.D. Anderson(if that's the place) has to say.

I wish you the best of luck as you fight...

all the best,

Steve

p.s. the other thing that is important is that M.D. Anderson is always doing a lot of clinical trials on new drugs and that may help you as well..
Melissa, there are no guarantees in all of this but I think you owe it to yourself to try to be your own advocate..seek different advice (from excellent sources) and then decide on a plan.
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Honey Dawn,

Want to wish you the best of luck. I have just finished 3 weeks ago with my treatment, (both chemo and radiation). I am trying to be very positive about my future with this cancer. You will meet some of the best people on your journey know you are not alone. Keep your head up and stay positive it is important, YOU CAN DO THIS!Wink
 
 
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Hello Honeydew Newbie. I see you are from BC. I am from Kelowna, BC and was diagnosed with state 2a tnbc March 10/09. This is when the biopsy was done. I also had a normal mammogram in Nov 08 and found an enlarged lymph node early Feb 09. Now I see my mammogram showed dense breasts which is much higher risk for cancer especially as I am 53. All I got was a report that said come back in 2 years. I came to MD Anderson on Mar 5/09 and started chemo on Mar 13/09. 12 weeks of taxol to be followed by 4 cycles of FAC every 3 weeks, then surgery and if anything positive radiation. After 7 weekly treatments of taxol the breast tumor shrank by 47%. I do not know if this is great or not but glad it is at least responding. It started out at 1.7 cm. It was impossible to feel the lump in the breast and even the docs here could not feel it so they have said the lymph node may be what saved my life. I only hope and pray that it is not spread to multiple lymph nodes but there is no way of telling until after surgery. They said here that by doing chemo first they can tell if the tumor is responding. If it was not they would switch me to a different chemo. I will be here in Houston until June 5th and then traveling back and forth after that. I am very interested in the conferences you are talking about Steve? Do you know if there are any clinical trials for post treatment tnbc to prevent recurrence??
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Steve,
 
Thank you so much for helping Melissa. I had sent her a pm last night, but did not get on to check my email until late today, and have since sent her a list of names of all the women with lung mets and the chemo, and the directions for the site, and now I posted a thread for her in the mets forum. I sent her the link for where I posted. I know that the women there will respond.
 
The doctors have told her that they will give Taxol this time, so perhaps she can get some help here to make a more informed decision.
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Hi Babs and welcome to our forum, it is so nice to have you join although not so good you have to deal with cancer.
 
It is good to read you've completed your treatments.
 
Thanks so much for the great support to Honey Dawn, you are so right, hold that head up!
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Hello Donna,
 
 
 
 
 
Here are 3 places you can go to look up trials that might interest you.  There are many good places, these are just 3 to get you started.
You want to make sure your source is a good one.
 
Good luck and let us know if you find something interesting.
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Dear Donna,

keeping track of clinical trials is a daunting task even for a breast oncologist/researcher (I know several who are swamped trying to keep up) and as a layperson I am about a million miles away from a professional's perspective but I am ineptly trying to make headway and be a bit more knowledgeable about things...I am particularly interested in the BRCA mutation and TNBC.

Pam has given you some very good links and I have two more to add-

www.breastcancertrials.org. (there is a lengthy registration process but hang in there it is an excellent site).

http://ww5.komen.org/BreastCancer/ClinicalTrials.html

Unfortunately, from my experience, it is necessary to become one's advocate and it can be a draining process. All I can tell you is that Pam is fabulous and I will try my best, as well, to be informative..

In the meantime, my prayers are with you as you fight the fight. You are doing so at an excellent facility..

all the best,

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