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Posted: Apr 26 2009 at 6:45am |
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Dear Bond and all-
I am new here and just caught up with this thread-
it is bizarre...as I started to type I received an email from my daughter with her new email address...it was like she was watching even though we are thousands of miles apart..
I spent four months going through chemo with my daughter and have been apprised of her continued side effects since...and yes I realize my observations are insignificant compared to hers...nevertheless, she will not be posting here anytime soon or ever, so here I am..
In September 2004 my daughter was dx with TNBC and her pathology report showed that her tumor was high grade and 75% invasive. After her quadrantectomy we both found out that we have the BRCA1 mutation. We met with several oncologists to determine what would be the best chemo protocol. One meeting we had was very unfortunate at a major NY hospital.
After listening to her advice....my daughter told her "I have a twin brother-should he get BRCA tested soon?"...the oncologist said "he doesn't have to test; he is your twin; he is positive"..me, "I don't think that's the way it works, doctor..boy and girl twins are fraternal...you would be correct if they were identical but that is not the case"..incredibly she then said, nonplussed, "hmmm, I suppose you MAY have a point"...as we left, I started to say something and my daughter said "I know, Daddy...I am not listening to her". To be honest, I don't even remember her advice regarding chemo. it might have been on the money..
in any event a four month course of AC/TAXOL was decided upon. One of the hardest things before she started her treatment was a decision she made to shave off all her hair and buy a wig. She had been advised that was the best course. I went with her to a hair stylist. My daughter's hair was gorgeous. When the stylist ran his hair clipper through the center of her head, I thought I would keel over...I saw the sadness in my daughter's eyes..The realization that this journey was really starting. After it was over, as we walked out, I told her.."you are beautiful...you were beautiful before and you still are".."oh, Daddy", and she melted into my arms and we both wept.
some thoughts on the chemo itself(in addition to the many good ones previously expressed on this thread)...
my daughter was advised to not eat foods she loved because they might taste vastly differently..she had what she described as a metallic taste in her mouth and found that to be good advice..
I brought my laptop to every infusion..I bought a splitter from Radio Shack...so that we had two sets of earphones and we watched movies together...she loves romantic comedies and that's what we watched mostly...also I introduced her to some of my old favorites like Sid Caesar..90% of the time...we held hands and then she fell asleep shortly after the movie started...the infusions I think ran about 3-4 hours...it was fascinating to me because although I felt my daughter was in a deep sleep..if I got up to go to go to the bathroom I would gently disentangle my hand and my daughter would say "Daddy, where are you going?"..
"to the bathroom, honey..sorry I woke you".."it's o.k. Daddy, please come right back, o.k.?" and I did and when I got back she looked fast asleep but her hand was where it was before and I would put my hand in hers and she would squueze it. Four + years and I can still feel that squeeze and I am now crying as I type.
we would talk as I drove her to her house and then when she got home she would crash...most of the time she went to her bedroom and I would read or watch TV till she woke...sometimes she would sit next to me and sleep on my shoulder..
the most important things that we focused on as my daughter's life was turned upside-down (and I recognize everyone's experience is different)
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1. this will be over one day...the clock ticks, sometimes agonizingly slowly, but at some point, normally, the infusions will end...
2. this poison will kill the cancer and save my life
3. I must do everything I can to further reduce my risks of getting cancer, again-going through chemo again...for my daughter because of her BRCA1+ status that meant having a PBM and a LAVH/BSO. I am not recommending anyone here do anything...just relating my family's experience.
This August will be five years since my daughter's first surgery...She is NED...she is fit, active and at the same time still suffering from the loss of her breasts and her ability to have a child naturally...still has aches and pains..sometimes runs out of gas very profoundly...and has chemobrain..
But she is here and we deeply love each other and will rejoice on May 19th in Manhattan and I am sure have a great day in the city together..
Was the chemo worth it? With all my heart I believe it has given her, along with her surgeries, the best chance to live productively for many decades. To enjoy her husband/siblings/step-children/ parents(don't know about the decades part with me..but you know what I mean) niece/nephew (with hopefully more to come I have six children..most of them unmarried)...she is also helping many teenagers get through difficult years in her job as a public middle-school guidance counselor.
Is there any guarantee in all of this? I am afraid, unfortunately, that with TNBC there are no guarantees but I think the chemo, often, vastly improves the odds...and yes, my love for my daughter and her love for me was immeasurably enriched by this experience. I know that sounds nuts to some but I believe it is true...so try and reach out and get some support somehow, someway to get you through the tough days..hopefully it is a husband/child/sibling/parent/dear friend/spiritual advisor or even a marvelous website forum like TNBCF. Try to feel the love...it's out there..one way or another it's there and it will nurture you..
and if you care about someone who is going through chemo please try to be present/supportive/loving in their lives as best you can..
My heart is with everyone here who has gone through, is going through or has finished chemo...May G-d bless all of you.
Please send your best wishes/prayers that my daughter will stay NED....Thank you, in advance, for that. Your support truly helps me and nurtures my soul..
I am with all of you, as best I can.
in your corner,
Steve
p.s. she rarely wore her expensive wig...it made her crazy hot especially combined with her chemo-induced menopause....but her beautiful hair is back...very curly and very grey..but beautiful as is she...
Edited by steve - Apr 26 2009 at 6:58am
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Posted: May 01 2009 at 3:07am |
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just checking in. had my 3rd a/c treatment wednesdayapril 29. everything seems to be going ok. thanking God everyday for his blessings and praying for all of those afflicted with this ugly disease. i hope all is well with everyone and know that you are not alone. if i can help anyone please let me. make it a good day. :)
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Posted: May 01 2009 at 11:04am |
Steve,
I just read your post, it is so beautiful. I had tears while reading you and your daughter's story, so very touching.
Ever since I can remember as a child I felt so protected and safe with my father. My father has passed but to have the experience you two shared is just wonderful. Father's always give their daughters a sense of security, nothing will happen if I am safe and close with my father.
You and your daughter have been in my prayers for some time. NED for her and for you, cancer never is to happen.
Best wishes, 
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Posted: May 01 2009 at 11:08am |
Bondande,
Hang in there, only 1 more AC to go! 
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Posted: May 01 2009 at 6:27pm |
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Wow Steve,
What a touching story, Becky and I just finished all of our treatments, and reading your story brought back some memories of going to the ward and waiting and getting her hair shaved.
The strength and courage it takes to fight cancer is amazing. We had 27 weeks of chemotherapy and a mastectomy in between followed by radiation.
Of all the treatments we had fighting breast cancer for us radiation took its greatest toll. Numbness in her toes seem to come and go, but it has only been about two months since her Taxol.
I am reading a book that is about life after cancer treatments. I am hoping it helps me deal with the fear that I find myself having. I will not show it to my wife because I continually stress the positive.
Wishing you the best and your daughter.
Dave
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Posted: May 01 2009 at 7:29pm |
Dear Bond,
prayers continue for you...
just had your AC treatment and can you help anyone? I can't count the times I have seen statements like that these last few years and still, each time, I do I am simply stunned by the spirit of the words...I know the thoughts expressed are authentic...
so many, many marvelous women fighting hard and yet, time is found, somehow to reach out to others...simply extraordinary...takes my breath away..it truly does..
Dear Pam,
thank you for your prayers....means a lot to me..
please take care of yourself..
Dear Dave,
I feel such a special bond (Bond no pun intended) with you...I love the way
you write "we" and I know how you feel because I have felt the "we" myself..first with my mother and now with my daughter...
I am afraid that, from my experience, the fear always is a part of this journey....Yes, time will help...it will actually help a lot and positive good feelings will become stronger and stronger... but, at least for me, there is an uneasy undercurrent of worry. I am sure it dates to the loss of my mom...it's 45 years this year and the pain is still there...yes, it has lessened with time but it is still there...
There was a French film about 40 years ago called "A Man and A Woman" with Anouk Aimee and Jean-Lois Trintignant...there is a scene where the couple are making love and Anouk Aimee's character thinks back to her husband, who was a 'stunt man' and died during a film.She actually witnessed the tragic accident and she re-lives the incident in her mind. Jean-Louis says to her "what are you thinking about?" and she tells him and he says "but he is dead?'...and she says "yes, but not for me."
"but not for me" is how I feel about my mom....she was my best friend and she is still present in my life in more ways than I can say.....the tragedy is that my wife and children never met her..they know about her, of course, but it is all second hand information..there are no motion pictures that captured her essence..her essence beats inside my soul and will always be with me..and as I write this I realize that even through her awful journey she still reached out to help others as you folks do as well.
Dave, I hope through the book you are reading and others like it and the wonderful folks on this site you will find a better place filled with less anxiety..I had no support system to deal with my mother's cancer...I am very, very hopeful your wife will make it through and in years to come all of this will be rarely thought of..I wish you more peaceful days than I have now. I come with too much baggage, I fear, to ever be truly peaceful...
Two surveillance visits ago the gyn felt "something I don't like" on a digital rectal exam he performed on my daughter...she had a CT scan and was afraid to tell me until it was over..and it was nothing...I still think about it once in awhile and get goosebumps..
Dave, if there is a chapter in this book or some other one called "how to screw a new carefree head on a 65 year old worrywort" could you refer it to me as soon as possible...Thanks in advance..
Hang tough, Dave..you are doing a magnificent job..I truly admire the husband and friend you are to Becky..pleasure to know you..again, you both are in my prayers..
all the best,
Steve
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Posted: May 01 2009 at 7:42pm |
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Dave,
an important postscript...
my mom passed in 1964...she walked around for a full year in 1961 with a mass that was tender...several doctors told her "cancer doesn't hurt" and there were no mammograms, MRI...no needle biopsy was performed and then when she had her surgery and her cancer was found all that was offered was radiation therapy..Chemo was in its infancy an dthe side effects totally brutal..
Becky and my daughter, I believe, will live for many, many, many decades...detection is different as is treatment..
I know my post above was dark and I wanted to offer you honest words of encouragement and again, hopefully, in time , you will be more relaxed
than I...with good reason...
sorry if I upset you..and apologies to anyone else out there...
my daughter has already loved longer than my mom post surgery and again I believe she will have a long, productive life..I am just somewhat uneasy..does that make sense?
all the best,
Steve
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Posted: May 01 2009 at 11:03pm |
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Hello Steve again once more before I retire to bed.
First I thank you for your kindness in helping us here, by reading our stories we know we are NOT alone. There are people out there that can and do care about others it is too bad cancer is what brought us together.
I post a lot on Yahoo Answers in the cancer category, there I am "Dave". I learned about this site from a friend I met in the radiation ward at Swedish Medical Center in Seattle. Her name is Linda. Linda is finished with her radiation treatments like we are but it is nice actually meeting in person and sharing stories.
I am glad we can be friends here, I am thankful for finding this site. If I am not here, I usually post on Yahoo Answers. I find that this site offers better and more informative answers to my questions, but there I am usually answering questions more than I am asking.
My wife is asleep now, and I am getting ready for bed, have to work in the morning. I just thought I'd stop by here before calling it a night and found your inspirational post.
I wish you all the best, and look forward to your company here.
Dave
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 10:52am |
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I am trying not to freak out... I have a lump above my scar from the partil masectomy and under the scar from the lymph node biopsy. I am in the middle of radiation therapy and just finished chemo April 1st. My doctors saw they will watch it, that it could be scar tissue or possibly a serotoma ( a fluid filled cysts) but it feels hard and doesn't move. Anybody out there have anything like this that turned out to be nothing?
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 7:33pm |
Steve you do not ever have to apologize in this forum.
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 7:37pm |
Gerisue,
Yes please try not to freak out as it could very well be scar tissue.
I have never had this problem but I would have them look into it soon as you can for your own peace of mind.
Good luck, sending strength your way, I know you are stressed, let us kow what you find out.
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Posted: May 07 2009 at 2:22pm |
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Gerriesue,
Did you find out what the tissue was? I too have lumps and they are hard lumps (about 2 inches across) and also soft tissue fullness and pain near my incision site. I had a lumpectomy. I asked my oncs, both radiation and chemo docs, and they both didn't seem to think it was anything. Maybe a hematoma. But the hardness on the one side is not even near where the scar is. I am also on the very nervous side about this. I do have a mammo coming up next week and I will just have to wait until then I guess. My docs don't seem to think CTs or other scans are called for at this time. I am still going to worry until the mammos are done.
This sucks.
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Hi Pam and Mary, Thanks for your notes. I am still in a holding pattern. I will revisit my onc in a couple of weeks. I am almost finished with radiation and yesterday the radiation onc said he wanted to add 4 boosts to the tumor bed, which will radiate the area of concern. Mary, glad you are scheduled for a mammo soon, waiting and worrying is the hardest part. But, we are doing what we need to do.... following up and bringing areas of concern to the attention of our caregivers/health professionals. Please let me know what you find out. We can hold each others hands until we get the answers.
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Gerriesue,
You are a sweetie. I would be happy to hold your hand through this. Seems like you are just about finished. It feels weird not going to the clinic after being practically married to it for all those rounds. Your onc sounds like she is on top of it with those boosts. I will post asap after Wednesdays test. It feels like being in limbo again. Argh! I will make sure the radiologist knows I want the report RIGHT NOW!. lol.
You have a great weekend. And if you are a mother, kiss the kids and have fun.
Mary ps. I am 54, well almost.
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Posted: May 22 2009 at 11:36am |
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Just a followup on my test results. I had my mammo done on Thursday. The large lump is what he calls post-radiation change. I didn't realize it could be on the whole other side of the breast. The seroma (big sac of fluid) by my incision site is decreased in size. He said it will eventually go down. Also, he said they used to drain them but found the breast got really lopsided without the tissue.
Yippee. Now I can breathe. It feels good to know there aren't any unusual findings and I can shut the head up for a while- (till the next round of anxieties).
Mary
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NED-10/09, PBM w/TE recon. 7/10, removal of TE/infec 8/10. CT chest. Rec fat-graft & stem cells
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Posted: May 22 2009 at 12:35pm |
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Congratulations Mary! That is wonderful news and you are right, to hear good news brings such relief.
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Mary, Good news! The lump near my scar is also a seroma. I can deal with that... today was my last day of radiation!!! There will be champagne served later. ... join me!
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Posted: May 22 2009 at 3:23pm |
Well Howdy Doody! Great times tonight! Drink a big one for me 
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Posted: May 23 2009 at 9:45am |
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Lots of good news here, congrats ladies.
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Posted: May 23 2009 at 9:53am |
Hi Pam, Feeling a bit guilty with all of the other posts going around. BUT! I am going to enjoy it today. Thanks for your well wishes. I hope you are posting from a beach somewhere with a pina colada.
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