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Hi Singing,
 
       Boy, has a can of worms been opened.If you get a chance check in on the bumped up topic "Conflicting Triple Negative Reports".At the last part of this topic ,we thought that we had figured this out.And the question being that?These places do not do this testing on triple negative BC.Supposedly they only do this if the tumor is large and the lady is to have chemo first in order to shrink the tumor and then have a lumpectomy.
 
      Now,singing .I want to make sure that I am not scareing you.So please do not think that your tumor may be larger or anything like that.We ,on this foundation are having a discussion as to when this testing can be done and if the testing does include triple negative also.
 
      I have always said that if I should happen to get BC,I would absolutely wish to have the chemosensitivity testing done.
 
      My hope is that you will try to get as many questions asked that you can in order to help us find out why some can get this done and some not.Believe me when I say this.Asking questions will not have any reason why yours should not get done.Yours is a done deal,especially since your ins. is going to pay for this to be done.Please keep us informed.
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It states right on their site testing is only done on stage 1, hormone receptor + cancers.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote billie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 04 2009 at 7:54pm
Oh I don't know Kirby what is really happening.Perhaps these people do not fully understand that singings tumor is triple negative.Or maybe it is being sent there to confirm exactally what subtype it is.
      Hopefully,singing can find some answers for us.But I also want to make sure that none of us scare her.Lotts of Hugggssss     Billie


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Oncotype testing is only done for hormone positive breast cancers - stage I.
 
They will reject our tumors because they are hormone negative.
 
Just my thoughts on the subject.
 
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 I have already accepted the fact I will need chemo and rad.  I am really not scared about that, just confused. I was questioning why the onc. ordered the test in the first place.  He did it as soon as the HER2 came back negative.  I have the path. report that states ERneg, PRneg.  My tumor was only .9cm, grade 2, stage 1, node neg., clear marg.  It has been one week today and I have not heard that it was rejected.  It takes 10 - 14 days for the test to be completed and reported.

I go to the med. onc. tomorrow.  I will find out more info and report back tomorrow night.

Anyone try Aloxi for nausea? I just received info in the mail about it.

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Molecular & Cellular Assay Tests

The Oncotype DX (genetic assay) is another test to enhance the ability to distinguish between low risk and high risk patients. Patients in the high-risk group, who would benefit from chemotherapy can then be pre-tested to see what treatments have the best opportunity of being successful, and offers a better chance of tumor response resulting in progression-free survival, while those in the lower-risk groups can be spared the unnecessary toxicity, particularly associated with ineffective treatment.

This laboratory test, as well as the others, is a tool for the oncologist. The oncologist should take advantage of all the tools available to him/her to treat a patient. And since studies show that only a minority of patients do respond to chemotherapy that is available to them, there should be due consideration to looking at the advantage of molecular and cellular assay tests to the resistance that has been found to chemotherapy drugs.

And, according to the National Cancer Institute, those who benefit substantially from "targeted" drugs make up a fairly small proportion of cancer patients. Conventionally, chemotherapy is recommended according to guidelines generated by statistical data. According to the FDA, the response rate of a patient that follows these guidelines is approximately 20%. What if you are one of those few?

Cell Culture (cell-based) Assays can report to a physician specifically which chemotherapy agent would benefit a high risk cancer patient by testing that patient's live cancer cells. Drug sensitivity profiles differ significantly among cancer patients even when diagnosed with the same cancer. Knowing the drug sensitivity profile of a specific cancer patient allows the treating oncologists to prescribe chemotherapy that will be the most effective against the tumor cells of that patient.

Every breast cancer patient can have her own unique chemotherapy trial based on consultation of pathogenic profiles and drug sensitivity testing data. Research and application of these tests are being encouraged by growing patient demands, scientific advances and medical ethics. These tests are not a luxury but an absolute necessity, and a powerful strategy that cannot be overlooked.

Improving cancer patient diagnosis and treatment through a combination of cellular and gene-based testing will offer predictive insight into the nature of an individual's particular cancer and enable oncologists to prescribe treatment more in keeping with the heterogeneity of the disease. The biologies are very different and the response to given drugs is very different.
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