QuoteReplyTopic: Intro and what next? Posted: Jan 27 2010 at 9:55pm
Hi all,
I was diagnosed with TNBC in May 2009. I was 38 years old at the time. I was borderline on HER2, but they did do the FISH test to confirm the tumor was negative for HER2. I received the diagnosis after having a lumpectomy. I had been breastfeeding up until about a week before the lumpectomy surgery, and my surgeon was uncomfortable removing lymph nodes at the time because she did not want to deal with the possibility of milk leaking into the wounds and infection, etc... (I have the initial path report for the lumpectomy but I can't recall the details and I can dig it up if it would provide a clearer picture of what is going on)
I began chemo very soon after - four Adriamycin/Cytoxan followed by four Taxol treatments, given every two weeks.
I opted for a bilateral mastectomy in October 2009. I also had 13 lymph nodes removed. The path report for this surgery found no malignancies - normal tissue in the left breast, no margins in the right and no signs of tumors, and no signs of malignancy in the lymph nodes.
However, due to my age and type of tumor, my oncologist and 3 radiation oncologists strongly suggested radiation therapy. I completed 25 doses on Dec 23. So I am done with treatment. I have not had any follow-up scans at this time. My oncologist said she would order some up if I want (but I hesitate because I already feel like I glow in the dark!).
I have been reading this forum for quite a while since I was diagnosed, and in fact, this forum is part of the reason I decided to go ahead with the mastectomy and the radiation therapy. I feel like I have done everything I possibly can do... I am taking vitamins, eating much better, I still haven't done lots of exercise because I'm still pretty worn out. I am feeling like the emotional part of this is just now hitting me, and it is draining. My husband asked me today when will I ever start feeling better, and I just don't know! I feel like I've done pretty well with everything, considering that I have a full time job and a two year old! I also feel like my doctors have run out of stuff to do to me (I told them, "so, you've poisoned, stabbed and burned me, what's next?" and the rad onc says "maybe we can put you on the rack! how about leeches?").
Of course, I'm terribly worried about recurrence, and I'm also worried about the last CBC report I got. I have never gotten the whole report before - I saw my regular onc at a different office, and I had to have my port flushed, so they also took blood and made me wait for the report. My WBC is 3.4, LYM is 0.5, (both are marked as "low" on the report), and what is worrisome to me is that the RDW is high at 15.5, and when I look up high RDW, I start finding things about liver problems. Can anyone help me interpret this?
Is there anything else I should be doing? Besides to stop worrying?! (we also talked about seeking counseling or taking more Xanax or other antidepressants). I am driving my husband nuts, so I thought I'd seek out some others who are going through this too.
Congratulations on finishing your treatment! We all fear recurrence, but you should find comfort in knowing you've done everything possible. It takes time to get your energy back. You've been through so much, so take it easy and don't push yourself too hard or too fast.
DX IDC TNBC 6/09 age 49, Stage 1,Grade 3, 1.5cm,0/5Nodes,KI-67 48%,BRCA-,6/09bi-mx, recon, T/C X4(9/09) 11/10 Recur IM node, Gem,Carb,Iniparib 12/10,MRI NED 2/11,IMRT Radsx40,CT NED11/13,MRI NED3/15
The treatment you went through sounds very similar to ours (# of lymph nodes removed, types of chemotherapy, mastectomy, and radiation) we are now 9 months from last treatment and have had 3 visits to our oncologist and so far there is NED (no evidence of the disease).
Even today my wife still has fatigue issues, and slight numbness from Taxol, but her chemo-brain is getting better! Becky has not been able to work since her diagnosis, but is beginning to consider looking for work beginning in March. Our oncologist is one of the best in Seattle for breast cancer (Dr. Kristine
Rinn) and she says that it takes at least the amount of time you went through treatment to recover from treatment to begin feeling "normal" again.
When Becky was initially diagnosed with cancer I found two psychologist for us to see. After five sessions we picked the one that actually was a cancer survivor herself (ovarian) and my wife is still having sessions with her, it has helped my wife with her cancer journey and I strongly recommend anyone fighting cancer to do the same.
As you know going to your radiation appointments you begin to see the same people around your scheduled appointment. Friendships begin and stories are shared. These were the first time my wife reached out into the cancer community. Nine months after treatment my wife is now taking yoga, writing, and singing classes.
Your energy will return but it takes time, so take care of yourself. It is very important to eat good protein in the mornings to build up your body that the poisons destroyed. Have your husband take care of himself too, caregivers cannot afford to exhaust themselves.
Continue on, I am glad you found us here, wishing you the best!
Dave
Wife diagnosed 7/08 stage 2B 4.78cm with 3 nodes. 15 weeks of Adriamycin and Cytoxin, Mastectomy, 12 weeks of Taxol, and 6.5 weeks of radiation.
You are doing remarkably well...for what you have been through. First, under ideal conditions it takes the body two years to get back to normal after being pregnant and having a baby. So that is the first major assault on the body. Next on the body battering events comes the major surgery, (mastectomy), toxic cocktail (chemotherapy), and last but not least...nuclear sunburn from the radiation. The effects of all of these things are cumulative...then you factor in the emotional and mental exhaustion from having a baby, being diagnosed, going through treatment - Mishka you are stronger than you realize, you just have to let your body catch up with your spirit!.
First your blood counts have to get back in the normal range....just remember the pregnancy, the chemotherapy, surgery and radiation all depleted your stores...so now you have to slowly build up the body's energy.
You are being too hard on yourself and your husband will either have to get help for you around the house (since you are working full-time), child-care, cleaning lady, take-out meals....put his name on things you normally do in the 'job jar'....but the moment Mishka puts herself first - and restores her body energy with rest, healthy eating, a little indulgence - and well-deserved pampering that will a good start to recovering the old you.
I had exactly the same chemotherapy when I was diagnosed in May 2007...had the mastectomy, and finished my radiation December 2007....day by day you will gain strength.
Thank you, I had not considered how hard pregnancy is on a body in combo with all of this!
I have to give my husband credit. He is a stay-at-home dad, and he does do a lot of the housework. He is worried about me, and wants things to be normal again. He was very dismayed to see how tired and burned I was from radiation, and he's now telling me he wished I hadn't done it! Too late now! I think I made the right decisions. I wanted to be as aggressive as possible. And, I still have reconstruction to go through, if I still want to do that. I will need to have the port removed as well.
My surgeon has said "complete response to chemo", but the oncologist has not yet said the magic "No Evidence of Disease" words yet... and my doctors say they don't know exactly when I'll feel better. I hate being almost the youngest patient in the office! I know several women my age who have bc, but none who are triple neg. And it is hard to find positive stories on the internet!
Your husband is unrealistic about returning to normal, because that place ceased to exist when you were diagnosed with cancer. Instead you will settle into a new normal and life will begin from there. Being triple negative you need to do everything you could do (which you did) so that cancer will never come back. I salute you for your bravery, and wish you only the best!
Dave
Wife diagnosed 7/08 stage 2B 4.78cm with 3 nodes. 15 weeks of Adriamycin and Cytoxin, Mastectomy, 12 weeks of Taxol, and 6.5 weeks of radiation.
I am new to this site. I heard about the site from a person who answered my question on Yahoo. I start chemo next week I am on the AC&T regiman every two weeks for four doses for the AC and every three weeks for five doses. I am 31 and have TNB. After reading some posts throughout this site. I am now scared. I had no idea that it was worse to have TNB than to have any other form. Why is it any different? Other than not having to take pills for five years?
I'm sorry you had to find us, but this site is wonderful to all of us with TNBC. Like you, I thought being negative was a good thing when diagnosed. It wasn't until I met with my onc that she told me it wasn't and that tn was more aggressive than the er+ types of bc. Chemo is the only thing we have at this time. Unlike our er+ sisters who can take tamoxifen or other meds to help prevent recurrence.
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Donna
DX IDC TNBC 6/09 age 49, Stage 1,Grade 3, 1.5cm,0/5Nodes,KI-67 48%,BRCA-,6/09bi-mx, recon, T/C X4(9/09) 11/10 Recur IM node, Gem,Carb,Iniparib 12/10,MRI NED 2/11,IMRT Radsx40,CT NED11/13,MRI NED3/15
I don't know if it's really right to say that TNBC is the worst. Today it's the worst because they haven't found a reliable treatment for it. It really seems to be more than one type all lumped together under one name because they don't even know how to differentiate between the types. Different chemos work for different people and there's really no way to know which type will work for who before trying them.
It used to be that HER2+ was the worst, but now they have a treatment for that that works pretty well, so now it's not the worst.
Maybe in a few years TNBC might not be the worst any more.
It's just that before there was, "breast cancer" and they treated everyone the same. Then they found something that works really well for some and they did some research and tests and discovered how to put all those that the treatment works for into a category and they called that ER+. Then they found another drug that works for a few more breast cancers patients and after the same process they figured out how to detect those and they called them PR+. Again it happened and now there's HER2+ and TNBC are all the leftovers who they don't know what to do with yet.
But they're working on it and they're figuring things out fast. Right now there are a few PARP inhibitors that are in clinical trials and there are several other targeted drugs that are still in the animal testing phase and a few others that will soon be in clinical trials.
Since everyone here is in the same boat or knows someone who is, we're all looking for the same information and together we end up finding out everything there is to know. But there's a lot, and it takes time to learn all this stuff.
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