QuoteReplyTopic: Zometa? Posted: Nov 16 2010 at 8:36am
Has anyone without mets been prescribed Zometa? When I met with an
oncologist at MSK she said "We are not to the point of recommending
Zometa to everyone, but we are prescribing it for many patients. Talk
with your local oncologist about it." I did talk with my local Onc,
with whom I've done the chemotherapy, and he said he was willing to
prescribe it for my Osteopenia, but not my breast cancer. He did not
feel it should be used for breast cancer except in the case of mets. We
left it hanging, as I know there can be significant side effects to Zometa
and I wanted to give this some thought. I've been on Fosomax (oral biophosphonate) for
Osteopenia for years, and could transition to the IV Zometa. The MSK onc thought studies showed possible preventative benefits that made it worth
consideration for Stage 2 patients.
Have any of you discussed Zometa with your doctors? Or do you have information about this?
Diag. Triple neg. 4/23/10 Stage IIB, 3.2cm, grade 3, 1/11 lymph nodes, lumpectomy 4/23/10, AC + T + Avastin, clinical trial 5103, Rads, age 59
I'm in a clinical trial for bisphosphonates (See my signature). You can google the trial and get more information. There are 3 arms of the trial: Boniva, Zometa and Clodronate. I believe there are several women on this forum who are receiving Zometa.
Good luck to you.
Donna
DX IDC TNBC 6/09 age 49, Stage 1,Grade 3, 1.5cm,0/5Nodes,KI-67 48%,BRCA-,6/09bi-mx, recon, T/C X4(9/09) 11/10 Recur IM node, Gem,Carb,Iniparib 12/10,MRI NED 2/11,IMRT Radsx40,CT NED11/13,MRI NED3/15
mity, please look back with the Search engine about some of the problems that have arisen from the Biophosphates. The Zometa is given as an infusion rather than at home with a pill like Boniva and has less problems, but it's important to understand the side effects and research fully...talk to your dentist and talk about the thigh fractures with your doctor.
Mity, I was on Zometa, immediately following treatment, with no mets for a year. My radialogist prescribed it and got insurance to pay for it by my having a dexscan and proving I had osteopenia.
It is supposed to help keep the cancer fromreturning in your bones, and has shown success for this off label use in TNBC.
I am not eligible for another dexascan until May 2011, insurance, so I am off Zometa until then.
Susie
dx 10/08,age 56,.75 cm. Stage1 Grade3,lumpectomy,SN neg..,AC 12/08-02/09,35rads,03/09-05/09,BRCA2+(E1415X),06/09,oophorectomy 10/09,
Zometa - IV/mo.,07/09-08/10, lumpectomy #2 10/20/10 NED
If you look at the link Arlene posted in the News, Resources section from the New England Journal of Medicine, page 7, only 10% of TNBC mets to the bone.
Thank you all very much. Donna, I did not know that statistic on TNBC and bone mets, that only 10% go into the bones. That puts the problems associated with Zometa in a new perspective.
Diag. Triple neg. 4/23/10 Stage IIB, 3.2cm, grade 3, 1/11 lymph nodes, lumpectomy 4/23/10, AC + T + Avastin, clinical trial 5103, Rads, age 59
I didn't realize the statistics until I saw the article too. It makes me wonder about the side effects from the bisphophonates and if they are truly worth it for triple negative. I may ask my onc about it. I know chemo takes its toll on our bones so maybe it helps reverse some of the bone loss from chemo.
Donna
DX IDC TNBC 6/09 age 49, Stage 1,Grade 3, 1.5cm,0/5Nodes,KI-67 48%,BRCA-,6/09bi-mx, recon, T/C X4(9/09) 11/10 Recur IM node, Gem,Carb,Iniparib 12/10,MRI NED 2/11,IMRT Radsx40,CT NED11/13,MRI NED3/15
My oncologist has me on Zometa every 6 months for 3 years initially. He told me that although I didn't have osteopenia the research shows that Zometa use has shown reduction not only in mets to bone but also to organs (which is actually something scientists are still trying to understand). He said that because I am TNBC he wanted to do some Zometa as prevention. He had my dentist check me and send in a report before I began the infusions due to the risk of osteonecrosis of the jaw (which is not terribly high but it is a possible side effect which is in fact pretty serious) to make sure my teeth were fine.
Best,
Natalia
Natalia, 38 years
Dx TNBC 10/22/08, BRCA1+
Double Mx 11/20/08 with Recon.
3/37 nodes
Rads 7 weeks done 8/09
ACx4 every 2 weeks and Tx12 weeks. Avastin e/3 weeksx10 (Clinical Trial) Done Dec/09
I remember my onc mentioning part of the trial study is to see if it helps prevent mets to soft tissue organs also. I was just surprised by the diagram of mets % for tn and bone mets being only 10%.
DX IDC TNBC 6/09 age 49, Stage 1,Grade 3, 1.5cm,0/5Nodes,KI-67 48%,BRCA-,6/09bi-mx, recon, T/C X4(9/09) 11/10 Recur IM node, Gem,Carb,Iniparib 12/10,MRI NED 2/11,IMRT Radsx40,CT NED11/13,MRI NED3/15
I was surprised at the % mets to bones for TN too. I have been trying to do more and more research to figure out the benefit of being on the trial. This is very interesting. I plan to speak to my onc when I see him in December to ask questions about this and get more nitty-gritty details.
I'm nervous about the side effects of the bisphosphonates including the long-term side effects. I mean, we are taking very very high doses of this medication.
Lorrie
Lorrie,DX 04/08, Stage 2A Medullary, N0, M0; Lumpectomy, Chemo (TC x4) and Radiation. Enrolled in Bisphosphonate Phase III study.
Natalia, That is so interesting that your Onc said Zometa might help prevent mets to organs. I would love to see some studies on that, or anymore information. I've been on weekly Fosomax for years with no problems at all, and for one year I tried monthly Boniva which gave me some stomach problems. I know Zometa infusions can result in some serious side effects though, and I'm trying to figure out whether or not its worth the risk.
Diag. Triple neg. 4/23/10 Stage IIB, 3.2cm, grade 3, 1/11 lymph nodes, lumpectomy 4/23/10, AC + T + Avastin, clinical trial 5103, Rads, age 59
So far I have had two infusions and no complications. Just a bit of pain in the bones after the first one but none with the second one.
My oncologist wants to be as proactive as possible and since we don't have much options after chemo and radiation, he thought we may give this a try in low doses for the first three years when the recurrence risk is higher. He also has me taking a bunch of supplements, suggested changes to my diet and made me increase exercise (I've always been active and thin and still he wants me doing cardio for at least 3 hours every week plus some type of strengthening exercise ....)
I hope this helps.
Best,
Natalia
Edited by nmunoz - Nov 17 2010 at 2:55pm
Natalia, 38 years
Dx TNBC 10/22/08, BRCA1+
Double Mx 11/20/08 with Recon.
3/37 nodes
Rads 7 weeks done 8/09
ACx4 every 2 weeks and Tx12 weeks. Avastin e/3 weeksx10 (Clinical Trial) Done Dec/09
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