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Please respond and let me know (to give me courage) if you are a long time survivor of TNBC. My grade is3/3 (Very aggressive) in all categories. I am lymph node negative but it was invasive and 2 cm. I was diagnosed in March 2006. I  am petrified of a reoccurance because the doctors tell me it would be stage 4 if I have a reoccurance. I had a bi-lateral masetomy, 4 treatments of AC, and 4 treatments of Taxatere. Now I am scared because their is nothing else to take to prevent a reoccurance.

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Hi Josie,
 
I was dx. Feb. 2001. I was reading with interest tonight, the posts that are saying adriamycin isn't effective for TN. I do realize I am a lucky one. I was given 4 rnds of AC for a 2 cm tumor. That is what protocol of the day was. More of my statistics with my signature. Sometimes coming on here and reading is scary because so many are in the throngs of battle now or have finished recently or are dealing with reccurance. I like being aware, which is why I check with this sight occasionally but only found this sight this past Oct. I think you are able to pull up all posts I have written to see how the emotions run up and down and the advice to others asking your same question.
 
Good luck to you. Let me know if there is anything else I can answer.
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2cm. no nodes stage 1 grade 3

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Good morning Josie, we understand what you're feeling.   When treatments are done we just go to our check-ups and stay vigilant.  Otherwise try to get busy at your own pace trying to put your life back together.
 
We are all afraid but we try not to let it take over our day.  Cancer wins if it keeps you down all the time.  If you are having a particularly bad day and thoughts are not good ones or scary try to find something to distract you if only for a few minutes.  It will get better as time goes along.
 
I a 5yr two time survivor.  You have to remember too that alot of women do not get bc back. 
 
They are working on some things for triple negatives, hopefully something good will be just around the corner.
 
Because of this Foundation we are finally getting some attention!
 
Write anytime,Hug
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Josie,
Don't forget what my doctor refers to as the most important tool against recurrence - exercise!  He says 3 hours per week cardio - I've discovered that the cardio workout on the treadmill is pretty good and I can do 30 minute increments easier than blocking off three hours.  I know it is difficult when you finish treatment and you are 'out there' and you feel helpless.  I've never been a huge fan of the 'e' word but if it keeps the monster at bay, it is well worth it.

Take care.
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Hello Pam,
 
Thank-you for all of your encouraging words, advice and for taking the time to send me your thoughts of inspiration.
 
 
 
                                                          Take care, Josie
 
PS: Do you take and special vitamins or anything to help prevent a reoccurance?
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Hi,I am writting for my sister.She is 68 and is stage (or should I say was stage 3)I do not know if we are looking at this in the right way (at the present she is cancer free)because of the lumpectomy and no cancer in the lympth nodes.Because my sister does not get on the internet very often I began to search breast cancer to try to find out everything that we possible could..diagnosed in Feb.08.along with a patology report.The surgeon was the first to say that the invasive ductal carcinoma was one of the most common out there.I was really scared,but I thought,ok surely there is standard treatment.Still scared ,but feeling a little better.
   I always watch Robin Roberts on GMA and am aware of the fact that she had lost her hair with her bout with bc so she must have had to have chemo.My sister was told that since hers was found so early she would probably have to have radiation only.Anyway back to Robin,I was at my computer searching and listening to the tv when Robin and Chris Rocks Wife mentioned the one called triple negative and Robin said that that hers was called that.And again I knew that Robin had lost her hair.I thought to myself ,I am so glad that my sisters is the most common one.And then I began to look on my copy of her pathology report ,was it possible that I was reading the negative ,negatve, negative.,beside those 3 things.I was so in hope that I was wrong.But of course I wasn't.
   Oh my goodness.Now how. do I tell my sister when she is schduled for surgery in 2 more days.What do I do?She felt so blessed that she was only going to have to have radiation only.I tried to mention tn  to her and she quite frankly did not want to hear it at that time.Her mind I'm sure was still trying to process all that the surgeon and the oncololist had told her.
  She had the lumpectomy and the sentinol lympth node surgery and thank goodness,none in her lympth nodes.When she went back to the surgeon for the follow up ,he at that time told her that she would have to have chemo and radiation and that hers was called tn.
   She seems to be accepting this diagnosis better than me.I am scared to death for herCry,But.I am always very possitive around my sister.ClapI am torn between wanting to know everything about tn and yet I wish that I knew nothing about this tn.,so that we could just let the DR.s do their thing.So guys I hope that I am doing this right.Maybe reading what you guys have to say can help me calm my mind some.Thanks Billie
    
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Welcome Billie and your sister!  I know that this is a lot to digest so try to take your time, don't read too much about cancer at one time, and stay on national sites whle you are learning.  Write down your questions and ask the professionals at the oncology office.  A diagnosis is so overwhelming that it seems to work very well to break everything into parts and take one step at a time. 

This is an excellent site and the participants are very caring and knowledgeable.  You and your sister are in our hearts and prayers.

Love you.
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Hi Billie, welcome to you and what a wonderful support you will be for your sister.
My goodness, this is all so recent and she is having another surgery in 2 wks?
Write down any questions you might have for the Onc for the next visit. 
It is all very confusing.
 
Let us know your sister is doing,
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It seems from several posts and from other friends that if your going to reocurr it seems to happen just after the 5 year mark. Why is that?
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Paula,
 
From the posts I have read with TN  it is most likely to reoccur in the 2-3 year mark. I am sure others will post with statistics on that. Of course, with cancer, we all know it can be many years later.  The likelyhood is just much less.
 
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Josie

I was dx Jan 1997 with 6+ node, so am 11 yrs out from my triple neg dx
and now almost 2yrs from my 2nd dx on the other side also triple neg.

Hope that seeing that there are long term TNBC people here gives you the encouragement you need

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Thank-you so much for your encouraging story and repy. Josie
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Thank you so much Raine, it really does help.

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Josie,

HOW does your doctor know that a recurrence would automatically be a stage 4 cancer? Forgive me for second guessing your doc, but I don't know how anyone can predict something like that??

I feel better now, knowing that I am watched closely -- any new cancer I might experience will be caught early.

My cancer was dx in October 2006. I finished treatment 11 months later. Since then I have focused on getting my energy back.

I feel lucky to be triple negative. I do not have to fear the estrogens that are naturally flowing through  my body... I do not have to take heart-damaging drugs (Herceptin) and worry about my cancer becoming "resistant." Our trip-neg cancer responds better to chemo than the others, so we've already fought against it.

True, no one knows what "triggers" trip-neg. I tend to think of it as divine grace. My life before the cancer was on auto-pilot, and I was putting off so much for "someday." Now, I try to live as much as I can EACH day. That is a gift.  (Triple negative breast cancer is one of the most positive things that has happened in my life! )

It is important to  keep your follow up appointments with doctors you trust. Get copies of your reports. Ask questions. If your doc will not answer, find a new doc.  I drive 2 hours to see an oncologist who I think is the very best in my area. Locally, I have a nurse who I think is an angel on earth. It is important to have good doctors (even if they are far away) as well as local advocates.

Also, I started reading the statistics and reports. They can be hard to read, but you have to have perspective. Trip-negs have "poorer prognosis" and etc... But sometimes they are talking about a difference of less than 5 percentage points. That is not information worth ruining my day over. Stay informed. Keep it all in perspective.  Look for new information. So much info is rehashed over and over and over again...

We bought a treadmill, and walking has become so important to me. I listen to life-affirming songs (Bon Jovi is great, surprisingly!), and I walk 30 minutes each day as much as possible. Embarrassed  My diet still needs ALOT of help. I use my three boys as an excuse  not to  eat better...  Unhappy Would welcome useful, practical help from someone on that issue!

Helping others is a way to help yourself. I got a part-time job at our local library, and it has been a God-send -- something else to focus on each day instead of my cancer. It affirmed that I am a useful, viable ALIVE person. Not just a cancer victim/patient, like I felt for so long.

And, I have a strong faith. I truly believe in Jeremiah 29:11... God has a plan for my life, and he is not a God who wants to harm me. He loves me.
Yes, if the cancer comes back He and I will have more heart to heart talks. I will not be happy about a recurrence. But, I will trust Him to see me (and my family) through.

Hang in there, and keep your head high.  Cancer is so much to get over. I deal with side affects of it every day. Mostly breast tenderness from radiation. Tomorrow I get the results of my annual MRI. I'm nervous, but determined to do whatever might be necessary if something is found. We are stronger because of the cancer.




9/06 Stage2B. Pos Nodes; Neg BRAC; TAC/Lumpectomy/Rads/Xeloda.
4/08 Local Recurrence; Mast w/ Latissimus Flap;Taxol/Gemzar/Carbo. Zometa.

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Hi Joan,
 
Thank-you so much for taking the time to send all of your wonderful, inspirational words. I can tell you are truly a very special woman and I know God will send you many blessings for your goodness.
I wanted to try to explain to you though, that the reason a reoccurance would be stage 4 in my situation is because I chose to have both breasts removed even though the cancer was not in both breasts. So God forbid, if I were to have a reoccurance it would be in an organ or bone which is considered and staged as stage 4. With you, and many others, you still have breasts and if it came back again in the breast tissue and was not found anywhere else it would not be stage 4. My cancer did not get into the lymph nodes but it was invasive which means it came out of the milk duct gland and into the surrounding breast tisssue. We have blood vessels in our breasts and my understanding is that if any cancer cells made their way into the blood vessels that is how it travels to other areas of our bodies and shows up sooner or later. So you see, this is why I am scared. I also have a little boy who I want to see grow up......... I am catholic and pray quite a bit, attend mass weekly.... and did so before my diagnosis. I love the quotes you sent from the Bible also. I also have  difficulty eating the "right foods" because I figure life is too short to deprive yourself of some foods you desire. I do 20 minutes on the treadmill and go to a yoga class that I absolutely love. If any of you survivors have never tried yoga class I so very much reccomend it. Just try to find one like I belong to that is gentle yoga. I guarantee you will find it very helpful in many ways. Please respond back if you can Joan and anyone else about what I have just wrote and tell me your thoughts and feelings. I live in Michigan by the way. God bless all of you!!!! Josie
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I am a caregiver for my sister in law and best friend who is triple negative with mets.  Her original diagnosis was in August 05, she had an 8cm tumor in her right breast and 20 lymph nodes involved, she chose to do a bilateral mastectomy and the pathology found early cancer in the left breast as well.  She is BRCA1 positive.  38 yrs old.  She also had a hysterectomy, chemo and radiaition.  She was diagnosed with mets in august of 07.  She has liver mets and abdominal node involvement.  She is currently on a clinical trial which combines abraxane and avastin.  She is on a weekly regiment, indefinitely.  Those are her stats, but along with those facts here are some more.....She has three young children, 2, 6, and 7.  She is a friend, a mom, a  wife and an all around inspiration to so many.  She gets up everyday and functions like the rest of us, she goes food shopping, takes a walk, celebrates a friends triumph and attends school events, my point?  She lives each day, with a smile, happily, showing us "how it is done"  I tell her almost daily....."Always remember that every cancer has been beat by someone"  Keep the faith and enjoy each moment, her cancer has given me the forsight to use my life.  I am proud and amazed of the courage all of you display and want you to know that you teach us more than we could ever hope to learn and we are eternally grateful.  Stay strong.
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If you are interested in the recurrence stats. and chats, go to the recurrence chat room.
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Josie,
I am almost to 3 years as a survivor.  4.5 cm tumor, no node involvement, also grade 3, most if not all triples are grade 3.    I know of a lady who posts here occsasionally who is a 21 year survivor who had 22 positive lymph nodes and has had no recurrances.  There is hope.   Hang in there and think positive thoughts.
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[QUOTE=Joan2844]Josie,

Embarrassed  My diet still needs ALOT of help. I use my three boys as an excuse  not to  eat better...  Unhappy Would welcome useful, practical help from someone on that issue!


I am certainly no expert on this, having just been diagnosed myself, but I recently read the book The China Study, by T. Colin Campbell, (2006), and it strongly presents a case for going vegan - no meat, no dairy, no eggs and for avoiding simple sugars and white flour.  I have not fully committed to becoming a vegan, but I have been eating primarily fruits, veggies, whole grains and lots of beans and legumes (thank goodness for cannned vegetarian chili!) for the past few weeks, and it actually hasn't been as hard as I thought.  Since i'm totally addicted to soda, that's my next target, but the caffeine withdrawal is going to be tough!
 
I'm finding that by primarily eating these foods, I don't have to pay too much attention to fat, because my fat has always been mostly in the form of dairy foods or baked goods with white flour.  I'm sure it will get harder, and I'll have my ups and downs with it, but so far it hasn't been bad at all (but I do like most vegetables and fruits), and I'm willing to do it if it will keep me alive. 
 
Exercising....that's where I could use the motivational kick right now!
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I just had a clear Pet/CT scanTongue and now don't have to go to my oncologist for 3 months...feels like a real vacation. 
So now it's the "wait and see" phase."  I wonder how others handle this part of the journey? 
I'd be interested in starting a discussion around this.  Anyone else?
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