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    Posted: Jun 24 2014 at 12:03am
Hi There,
       I just got my 2nd of 12 treatments today and my onc nurse said some women have tried teatree oil on their nails to help prevent them from falling off, I wondered if any ladies had a problem with their nails and have tried this remedy. I'm hoping not to have this side effect but hear it can be quite painful so if there is anything I could do to ward it off I'm in..So far I seem to be tolerating taxol ok mostly tired and some headaches..is this pretty much standard for those that have had this treatment? thanks Kathy
age 58 dx Feb14 stage 1A grade 3/ had lumpectomy Mar14 1.8 clear margins no nodes// involved..4 AC/12 Taxol//Brac neg
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Hi Kathy,
   I am having my 3rd of 12 Taxol treatments tomorrow. My MO advised me to try taking a B complex vitamin plus calcium and magnesium to try and stave off the effects of neuopathy. He said it seems to help some women. He's not sure if it help with the nailbeds. I have just started noticing that my fingertips are getting tender. I cut my nails very short, hoping to avoid bumping them on stuff and having them lift off. I hadn't heard about the use of teatree oil. I do have a hand soap that I have been using that contains teatree oil though.
So far I have tolerated the Taxol better than the A/C. No nausea, but I do have a few days where I have body aches and feel like I'm getting the flu.
I hope you don't lose your fingernails.
Wishing you well, lilyrose
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Hi Kathy,
 
I will have my 9th of 12 weekly Taxol infusions this Thursday.  So far, I'm tolerating it very well.  I have been icing my hands and feet just before, during and just after the Taxol infusions in an effort to lessen or prevent neuropathy and nail loss.  I did relatively well on AC too, but have more energy and better taste buds on Taxol.  I actually had one big toe nail removed by a podiatrist after AC, with the second big toe nail lifting & developing fungus.  This is an unusual reaction to AC, but all the more reason to do all I could do to prevent this will Taxol.  I use two sets of Elastogel frozen gloves and booties.  With my MO's OK, I take B6, Glutamine, and Biotin for the nails.  I also use pure tea tree oil preventatively. 
 
Good luck in your treatment!
 
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DX TNBC 1/14; age 66; Stage 1; Grade 2; 1.2 cm; 0/2 nodes; lumpectomy; BRAC Neg; 4 DD AC; Completed 12 weekly Taxol July 2014; Radiation August 2014
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i lost almost all my toenails on chemo - only one hung on - and my fingernails got pretty ugly but didn't detach.  be careful about stubbing your toes.  i was not particularly kind to my feet and it took a couple of nails growing in before the two big toenails 'stuck'.  they are 99% attached now.  i've heard icing helps but my toenails were too sore early on to really try it.  i did use my center's ice gloves during taxol treatments.
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I am getting my 4th a/c on Thursday and have tolerated it fairly well, except for my big toenails.  They started acting up last week.  I am a bartender and on my feet for long periods of time.  I plan on asking my onc about the booties.  Where do you girls get the tea oil? I have to work and need to try to head off problems now before its too painful to be on my feet...  who knew that stubbing your toe could hurt so badly....
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Nancykind - Wow, that's wonderful that your center provides the Elastogel booties and gloves.  Most do not and they are expensive.  You can make your own freezing packs with double bagged gallon or quart freezer Ziploc bags and alcohol and water, but I found them to be unbearably cold and difficult to use.  My MO will actually begin a clinical trial for freezing hands and feet while on Taxol, but I started before.   I will do anything to prevent the neuropathy and nail loss, although I realize there are no guarantees.
Jackie - You can buy pure tea tree oil in any CVS or other pharmacies.  You'll have to ask where it's located, but they should have it.  The real deal (not just a product that contains a little tea tree oil) will cost about $10-12.
 
DX TNBC 1/14; age 66; Stage 1; Grade 2; 1.2 cm; 0/2 nodes; lumpectomy; BRAC Neg; 4 DD AC; Completed 12 weekly Taxol July 2014; Radiation August 2014
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I am almost 3 weeks out from my last Taxol infusion and I was really lucky in that I did not have any nail changes or neuropathy. The only thing I did was rub Burt's Bees Lemon Cuticle Cream on my nails every night, which is something I do anyway.
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Tea tree oil is a good antifungal.  Many of us get Fungus infections of the nails (onychomycosis) from taxol/taxotere.  It's not a quick fix, but will help.  I preferred this product over taking some very harsh medications.

  • Fungus infections of the nails (onychomycosis). Topical application of 100% tea tree oil solution, twice daily for six months, can cure fungal toenail infection in about 18% of people who try it. It can also improve nail appearance and symptoms in about 56% of patients after three months and 60% of patients after six months of treatment. It seems to be comparable to twice daily application of clotrimazole 1% solution (Fungoid, Lotrimin, Lotrimin AF). Lower concentrations of tea tree oil do not seem to be as effective. For example, there is some evidence that a 5% tea tree oil cream applied three times daily for two months has no benefit.

    http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-113-TEA%20TREE%20OIL.aspx?activeIngredientId=113&activeIngredientName=TEA%20TREE%20OIL
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Today I completed taxol treatment #11. I also met with the surgeon to discuss and set my surgery date. My surgery will be on Aug 7th. I elected a full mastectomy of the left breast w/o reconstruction. My boobs are tiny anyway. The surgeon will also remove my axillary lymch nodes since the cancer has spread to that area which was confirmed by Pet scan and biopsy. Luckily, the Chemo side effects have been minimum. I have only two issues, my nails looks terrible and I have BAD hot flashes and night sweats. Millie
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Millie I have the night sweats and hot flashes too - dozens a day! So annoying.
Dx 1/2/2014, Age 35, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, TNBC * LX-SNB-Port Placement 1/9/14
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Hi There,
        I just had my 10th taxol treatment today and I have mild numbness in my fingers but my nails are very sore ..still there though. I asked my onc nurse about it and she said a lot of people just can't finish the treatments and just stop..her words by the 10th one you have gotten the max benefit and the last 2 are a bonus. I'm afraid to stop although I'm very achey and fatigued at this point ..I can hardly take it but my family and I too feel I just need to see it thru it's only 2 more. Has anyone else felt so wiped out by the end of taxol and does your body pretty much recover after you stop..I don't want to have any regrets later if I stopped 2 short. Also I get 146 mg of taxol since I started ..I noticed some people seem to get a lot less ..not sure if I'm reading that right.I appreciate any feedback as you all can relate in a way my family and friends cannot..thanks Kathy
age 58 dx Feb14 stage 1A grade 3/ had lumpectomy Mar14 1.8 clear margins no nodes// involved..4 AC/12 Taxol//Brac neg
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Everyone reacts so different to the various chemo's it's hard to say what will happen. Personally I felt fairly good until I got to #8 that's when I got some serious side effects.....nails coming off and a lot of fluid retention and shortness of breath tired.....it has a kind of cumulative effect..... I did take all 12 treatments.....we only have one time to really beat this! You just have to do what you have to do! The good thing is you will recover. Always discuss your side effects with your onc and if she/he suggests you stop then I would listen to him/her - but I wouldn't stop unless it was serious side effects. Good luck! It took me about 6 weeks after stopping before I got my normal taste back!
Dx TNBC 6/12; age 59; Stage 3, Grade 3; 3.5 cm, 3/10 nodes + chest wall nodes; A/C x4, T x 12 completed 12/12 with PCR, 2/13/13 lump; IMRT Rads x 33 completed 5/22/13 BRCA 1 negative.
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I am proud to say I finished Taxol in November 2009...all treatments!  Finish your treatment!  I can't stress that enough not unless your oncologist tells you otherwise.  Taxol was very unkind to my fingernails.  It didn't affect my toenails but my fingers swelled soooo bad I couldn't button my clothes and they were starting to peel back so my oncologist rolled my last two treatments into one big bolus so I could finish before they came completely off and developed an infection.  My clinical trial nurse suggested I use epson salts to soak my fingers and I used that for a while.  It did help with the pain but my nails continued to get worse.  Everyone is different I will agree with that commitment but please continue with your treatment.  I wish you the best and to anyone who feels like giving up...I will tell you there wasn't a visit I did not beg my oncologist to stop treatment while I cried Cry.  Just know this to will pass!  I had to keep telling myself this or I would have quit.  I also had to think about my children and how I had to be here for them as well as my husband and to show them what a fighter really looks like.  A fighter is not the people who received millions of dollars for getting in the boxing ring.  It is us!  We are the fighters! Now go out there and beat this!  I hope I never have to go through it again and my heart goes out to each of you going through treatment.  No one can understand what you are going through if they have not had our type of chemotherapy.  We understand each other because we are sisters in this fight!  You can do it!  You can do it!  I did it and so can you!Hug
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Dear kmwhope,

Please, please finish your taxol treatments. I volunteer in an oncology clinic and I had seen women stop treatment with only 1 Taxol to go. Yes the oncology nurse is correct in saying that some women quit before they finish, but I have never heard the oncologist say that the last 2 treatments are for good measure, or whatever.
I believe you would blame yourself for the rest of your life if you didn't finish and the cancer recurred.
Let us know how things go.

God Bless,
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Dx 6/06 age 65,IDC-TNBC
Stage IIb,Gr3,2cm,BRCA-
6/06 L/Mast/w/SNB,1of3 Nodes+
6/06 Axl. 9 nodes-
8/8 thru 11/15 Chemo (Clin-Trial) DD A/Cx4 -- DD taxol+gemzar x4
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I'm happy to report that so far (knock on wood), nearly 4 weeks from my last Taxol, I have no signs of neuropathy in my hands and feet. I think the frozen booties and gloves may have done their job. Although who knows, maybe I would have been one of the lucky ones anyway.   Did loose two toenails, but that started with the AC. My thumbnails are weird, but no other issues. I still continue to use the tea tree oil on toenails.
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Thanks Ladies ...I too agree I need to finish my treatments. I do feel so warn down but the end is in site and I just need to keep that in mind I don't want to ever have regrets later that I did not see it thru. I pray that all of us can beat this monster we have unfortunately had to deal with. God Bless..Kathy
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Hi Kathy, knowing that you can do it gives me strength as well! I have Taxol #8 tomorrow morning! We are strong women and we can do it!!
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DX IDC TNBC 03/14 age 40, Stage 1, Grade 3, 2cm, 0/4Nodes, lumpectomy 04/14, DD A/C x4, Taxol x12, Carboplatin x2, BMX 10/14, rads x28 Finished Jan 14/15, Oopherectomy Jan 29/15 BRCA 2+
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So now after my 11th treatment my Onc Dr is saying I have had enough..he feels I have already received the bulk of the benefit and that the risk are not worth taking the last one. My hands and feet are both numb and he is afraid it could become permanent..I sure hope he is right as I had made up my mind to finish all of them and now he really does not think I should.How much do I push? Thoughts..he is theDirector of the Breast Cancer center Onc at Hopkins..Thanks, Kathy

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age 58 dx Feb14 stage 1A grade 3/ had lumpectomy Mar14 1.8 clear margins no nodes// involved..4 AC/12 Taxol//Brac neg
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Kmwhope,

I know it's hard not to continue with treatment but you also have to weigh the permanent toxic side effects from the Taxol.  The neuropathy can be permanent and it sounds like your onc doesn't want to risk any more damage.  

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Kmwhope,

My last Taxol was in 3/12. I only had slight Neuropathy after my last treatment. It got worse over time and today I have severe Neuropathy in my feet to the point where I have a hard time walking or driving my car for more the 20 minutes.

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4 A/C, 10 Taxol, 2 Abraxane due to allerg. react. to Taxol, fin 3/12. 33 Rads 6/12. NED CT 8/12, 10/13, 10/14
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