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    Posted: Jun 19 2013 at 5:47pm
Got my CT results by phone today.....will get full written report on Monday!! But I am still NED!!! I am now 6 months out from chemo....still hanging on to the Iniparib, so blessed to still have this working for me. :D

This now marks 21 months with NED!!!! And 3 1/2 years since mets diagnosis!!!

I am grateful to still be here and even more happy that I am still NED!!!

There is HOPE!!!! I and many others are proof that it still exists even in the midst of a stage 4 diagnosis!!!

I just wanted to share my awesome news with all of you!!

Cathi
Stg 2A 4/2005 TN IDC
Stg 4 11/2009 TN
11/09-09/10Gem/Abrax/Avastin
11/10-12/12 Gem/Carbo/Inipirib
01/13-09/13 Iniparib alone
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04/14-present veliparib (PARP)
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Congratulations!!!!  I'm doing the happy dance for you!!!!
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Cathi,

Doing the Happy Dance with you!ClapClap  It's so good to hear the protocol is still working and you're NED!!  Yeahhhhhhhh

Donna
DX IDC TNBC 6/09 age 49, Stage 1,Grade 3, 1.5cm,0/5Nodes,KI-67 48%,BRCA-,6/09bi-mx, recon, T/C X4(9/09)
11/10 Recur IM node, Gem,Carb,Iniparib 12/10,MRI NED 2/11,IMRT Radsx40,CT NED11/13,MRI NED3/15

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I just heard I have this today. Feeling very overwhelmed.  Am I understanding this correctly? You were stage 4 and still doing great? Please tell me your story. I need hope. I have no idea where I'm at yet.
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Thumbs Up.....congrats Cathi!  Great news!  I'm joining in with the NED happy dance for you as well!

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Dx TNBC 1/2013; age 63; 1.1 cm; Stage 1, Grade 1(?); lumpectomy clear margins; ALND -; severe SEs to first TC and treatment stopped; radsX25; BRCA -
Recur 6/2015 Mastectomy
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Cathi,

Congrats! I got the same good news for myself this week! I got CT scan results and have now been NED for 8 weeks. I had to drop out of the clinical trial unfortunately due to side effects, but I was able to tolerate the regimen just long enough to reach NED. So I am on no chemo now and feeling great.

I am especially glad to see your news because I have a friend with TNBC liver and lung mets who is on the same gem/carbo/iniparib regimen that you were. After 8 weeks she had dramatic shrinkage of the liver tumor and all lung mets, so its looking fantastic. She is not sick at all!

Dawncoskren, yes you understand correctly that Cathi was stage 4 disease and is now doing fine and same fir me. NED means No Evidence of Disease. Please tell us more about your situation as you get more info and we will be here for you!

Beth
2008 Stg1 TNBC, LX, FEC+T, rads
2010 2.5cm tumor BRCA-, BMX,CMF
2011 LN mets, Gem/Carbo, surgery, rads
2012 lung mets, PI3Ki/taxo
2013 anti-PD-1
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Cathi,
I get to turn on my laptop & see 2 posts of NED. It truely make my heart dance when seeing these posts. Congrats !!!!!!
Enjoy :)
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TNBC stage1 size 1.8, grade3 no nodes 4/11 Lumpectomy 5/11 4cycles DD A/C 4cycles DD Taxol. Double Mastectomy 12/11 BRCA all neg
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cathi,
So happy for you this is wonderful news.NED just love it!!!Have a great day you deserve it!
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Thanks everyone!! Beth I am so happy to hear of your great news too!!! I hope that you will be NED forever!!! Isn't it a great feeling to get to this point in our journey?!?!?!?

Dawncoskren....I am doing great!! My mets were discovered in Nov 2009....so 3 1/2 years ago. Didn't think I would be here today...but by the grace of God I am. I am feeling great and slowly getting my strength back and trying to get some of the chemo weight off.

Take it one day at a time...that is what I do. There will always be ups and downs. I still have them and I always will. As long as I fight this beast...but I refuse to lay down and die! Instead I fight each and every day for myself, my hubby and my 4 kids.

Cathi
Stg 2A 4/2005 TN IDC
Stg 4 11/2009 TN
11/09-09/10Gem/Abrax/Avastin
11/10-12/12 Gem/Carbo/Inipirib
01/13-09/13 Iniparib alone
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04/14-present veliparib (PARP)
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Congratulations to Cathi and Beth.   Sharing your NED status has brought hope to many, many ladies who are stage 4.  Clap
 
Dawn, please share more of your story as you find out your stage, grade, tumor size, lymph involvement, etc.  We are here to offer support and hope for a long, long, long, long cancer free life.
 
Love and God Bless,
Lillie
Dx 6/06 age 65,IDC-TNBC
Stage IIb,Gr3,2cm,BRCA-
6/06 L/Mast/w/SNB,1of3 Nodes+
6/06 Axl. 9 nodes-
8/8 thru 11/15 Chemo (Clin-Trial) DD A/Cx4 -- DD taxol+gemzar x4
No Rads.
No RECON - 11/2018-12 yrs NED
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Cathi,

Awesome words "Still NED" from an Awesome Woman.
And not just NED but   " 21 months with NED!!!! And 3 1/2 years since mets diagnosis!"

With much hope and many prayers for threads of "Still NED" for a long, long time.


With caring and positive thoughts,
Grateful for today..........Judy
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Meeting with the doctor for questions today. I think I'm a grade 3 with a tumor sixe 1.50 to 2. Don't know about the lymph nodes yet. Goimg for my mri today anfld meeting with the surgeon next Wednesday. .I will keep you posted. What does the grade mean. I get the stage but not the grade.
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Dawncoskren,
The grade is an indicator of how fast the cancer is growing. In breast cancer you have 1, 2 or 3 with 3 being the fastest. Nearly all TNBCs are grade 3. The good news is that the faster growing cancer does tend to be more susceptible to chemotherapy.
Your tumor is not very big yet, so there is an excellent chance that lymph nodes will be negative and you will be Stage 1 and have a great chance for being cured!   You will have big decisions to make regarding lumpectomy vs. mastectomy and which chemo regimen to do but we have all been through it and you will get through it too! This part you are going through is the most emotionally draining and scariest for many of us. Once you know exactly the extent of the cancer and get a treatment plan in place, it relieves a lot of anxiety.

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2010 2.5cm tumor BRCA-, BMX,CMF
2011 LN mets, Gem/Carbo, surgery, rads
2012 lung mets, PI3Ki/taxo
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Beth,
 
Thank you so much. I have given a lot of thought to having my breasts removed. I would like them both to be removed. I'm going to be tested for the BCRA but in my heart I know I have it and even if I don't I just want them gone.
 
May I ask how you handled it?
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Hi dawncoskren,

I think that your instinct to have a bilateral mastectomy is very reasonable.  I had a lumpectomy, rads and chemo after my first occurrence, but My case was a little unusual.  Here is the story.

Five years ago, my initial diagnosis based on mammogram, biopsy, CT scan and MRI was DCIS (ductal carcinoma in situ), triple negative, grade 3.  DCIS is stage 0, and is really a precancerous situation in which there are cancer cells growing but they have not yet organized into an invasive tumor.  It was first detected by the visualization of microcalcifications (which look like little pixels of light) on the mammogram.  THe tumor was not visible on mammogram or CT, and in the MRI it looked like a 1.2cm area of DCIS, rather than a tumor.  All doctors advised that a lumpectomy followed by radiation was the standard treatment for DCIS and a mastectomy was considered overkill, given I had no family history of breast cancer.

However, the pathology of the lumpectomy contained a surprise - I actually had a 1.2cm tumor.  That changed everything.  I think it's possible that the DCIS turned into a tumor in the 3 weeks that I waited in between the biopsy and surgery.  I was offered a much earlier surgery date, but I didn't feel ready and wasn't sufficiently knowledgable about TNBC to realize how potentially serious the situation was, so I was not in a terrible hurry for the lumpectomy.  It's also possible that the CT and MRI just couldn't show the tumor because my breasts were pretty dense (I was 44).

My surgeon said that we needed to do another surgery to dissect some lymph nodes to look for any metastases.  ANd since chemo was now a certainty, she also placed a port-a-cath.  But since the pathology showed the margins around the tumor that had been removed were clear, she didn't think any more surgery on the breast was needed, and it didn't occur to me to reconsider a mastectomy, especially since the lymph nodes turned out to be clear.  None of my medical team recommended it.  I proceeded with a very aggressive adjuvent chemo regimen (FEC x 3 followed by Taxotere x 3) and then had 37 radiation treatments.  

THen, 11 months after radiation was completed, I found a hard lump in the same breast in a totally different location.  THis turned out to be a 2.5cm tumor, again TNBC.  I did not hesitate then to have  bilateral mastectomy.   I also requested that the first layer of LN on the tumor side be removed during the surgery regardless, as a precaution.We don't know for sure whether this was a recurrence of the original TNBC or a "second primary" tumor.  But one thing is for sure - I wouldn't have had it if I'd had a mastectomy in the first place.  I think that my medical team and I all made good decisions based on the information we had, but in retrospect I wish I had had a mastectomy after that lumpectomy revealed the tumor.  After the BMX, the pathology showed that the axillary lymph nodes were still clear.   So my stage at that time was 2a.  I got multiple opinions from experts on which chemo to do, and i had a standard CMF regimen.  We had every reason to believe that I was cured at that point.  But then 11 months later I found a hard lump near my collar bone, which was LN mets.  YOu can see the summary of the rest of my story in the signature line.

So, I am now a big supporter of bilateral mastectomy for even Stage 1 TNBC, but it's a very difficult thing to do and there is no way to know whether it's really necessary.   You just have to decide if keeping your breasts is worth the risk of a recurrence, which isn't that high for Stage 1 TNBC if you are BRCA negative.  I think it's about 20% but you should ask your doctor.

ANd the good news in this story is of course that I am now disease free!  I have managed to live a full joyful life throughout most of the last 5 years and my life is richer now than before the cancer.  I may have another recurrence, of course, and if so we will just start treatment again and carry on.

Hugs,
Beth




2008 Stg1 TNBC, LX, FEC+T, rads
2010 2.5cm tumor BRCA-, BMX,CMF
2011 LN mets, Gem/Carbo, surgery, rads
2012 lung mets, PI3Ki/taxo
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Thank you beth. I'm so greatful you ar e NED now. It is my instinct to remove them both. I would just feel better. Thank you for sharing your story. The more I hear the more I know I will have a hard rd but I will beat it.

I'm sending you much love xoxoxoxoxoxo
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