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Hi All, I have been recently diagnosed with Stage 1(a) (1.8 cm tumor, nodes are clean). I have undergone a lumpectomy and now have seen two oncologists for their opinion on next steps. One recommended ACT and the other Carboplatin with Taxoterre (taxol). There is very little online regarding the carboplatinum being used post surgery and wondering if anyone has undergone the carboplatinum/taxol treatment and their experience. Thanks
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I had the same diagnosis as yours: 1.8cm tumor, clear nodes. I had AC-T before lumpectomy, and had pCR. I am getting radiation. I asked my doctor about Carboplatin for my treatment. He said it is not standard of care for early stage breast cancer and the side effects are concerning for what I might gain. 
Dx 12-27-2019 TN,Stg 1, Grade 3 Ultrasound 1.5cm/MRI 1.8cm, node-,BRAC-.
DD AC x 4, ultrasound cCR; Taxol x4
Lumpectomy:5-28-2020; 0/2 nodes. pCR.
Radiation: 20(16WBR+4 boosts) Total: 42.56Gy +10Gy
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Madison,

Did you have genetic testing done?  Are you BRCA positive?  If yes, then this might be why one recommendation was Carboplatin.  

The following are from the NCCN Guidelines (Page 57):

Guide 12
Systemic therapy for HER2-
  Preferred options
  • Doxorubicin and cyclophosphamide followed by paclitaxel 
  • Docetaxel and cyclophosphamide (TC)

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11/10 Recur IM node, Gem,Carb,Iniparib 12/10,MRI NED 2/11,IMRT Radsx40,CT NED11/13,MRI NED3/15

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Thanks Vivian. Donna, I am not BRCA positive. Waiting for full panel of genetic testing to come in.
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FYI I am 48 yrs young.
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Madison,

I looked again at the NCCN Guidelines (page 55) and none of the adjuvant recommendations included Carboplatin and Taxol as first line treatment.  I’m wondering why the onc recommended this course?

FYI - you are one year younger than my first diagnosis.  

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I don't know why... I believe it was based on a recent study. I will find out. When she first told me I had not done any research so could not question her immediately on her recommendations.  She said it was between this treatment and ACT but thought I should do the carboplatin/taxol. I will dig deeper. She is also retesting my tumor (we have ordered my slides), ordered a CT scan with contrast and an MRI which may help with further treatment recommendation.
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I will definitely circle back and let you know when I find out.
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Madison,

Do you think the onc meant adding Carboplatin to the Taxol portion?  There was a study at 2020 ASCO where they talked about adding Carboplatin to Taxol for Neoadjuvant treatment.  The patient will still get A/C, then follow by Taxol/Carboplatin.

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Strategies To Improve The Treatment of Early Stage TNBC

Adding neoadjuvant carboplatin to pre-surgery chemotherapy improved disease-free survival for patients with TNBC

Previously reported clinical study results have suggested that adding carboplatin to anthracycline/taxane-based neoadjuvant chemotherapy can increase the proportion of patients with TNBC who had attained a pathologic complete response [pCR], from 36.9 percent to 53.2 percent.

In the currently reported study researchers enrolled 315 patients with TNBC to receive 18 weeks of neoadjuvant chemotherapy consisting of paclitaxel, non-pegylated-liposomal doxorubicin, and bevacizumab and were randomly assigned to concurrently receive weekly carboplatin or nothing extra and then directly compared.

After a median follow-up of three years, 85.5 percent of TNBC patients treated with the additional carboplatin survived without evidence of cancer recurrence compared to only 76.1 percent of patients treated with paclitaxel, non-pegylated-liposomal doxorubicin, bevacizumab, and no carboplatin.



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Yes I think the Carboplatin would be added to the Taxol. However, she made it clear that if I did this I would not need to do the AC before. She did advise me that other oncologists would recommend the ACT. I will revisit with her once I get my test results back and meet with her again. Technically I am post surgery now that the tumor is out (weighing if I should just get a double mastectomy in order to avoid recurrence - so may get another surgery eventually) but because tumor is out I am not in a neoadjunct situation, so game plan from the study you sent me doesnt seem applicable. So will have get rationale from my Dr. as to why she is recommending this in light of all of this...
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Dear Madison,

I would be happy to talk with you, if you wish. I am not a medical professional but I have helped over 100 women on the TNBC Foundation over the last 10+ years and I may be of use to you. I know you said you had genetic testing done and I have a good relationship with a precision medicine physician in San Diego who might be helpful, once your genetic testing comes back.

Please feel free to send me a PM, although I have been having some difficulties getting them at times. If I don't respond the same day please email me @
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I am in San Diego. Pre-Covid I would have offered to come and meet you. I traveled 6 months away from home last year accompanying folks to various cancer centers around the country or going to conferences but have not been on a plane since February. 

Whatever, you decide, I sincerely wish you the best of luck. Also, I treat every case, confidentially, and will never write about you on the board, or anywhere else. Also, there are no charges, but again I will not give you a medical opinion but will try to put you in touch with good medical professionals. Hopefully, I can be of some use to you.

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Donna I’m going to do the ACT... Any tips for tolerating treatment welcome from all! Thanks
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Vivian did you consider mastectomy over radiation at any point?
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Madison, 

I did not consider mastectomy. Lumpectomy renders higher rate of local recurrence and I am aware of the risks. But mastectomy has its own, different risks that I can't overlook. My genetic test showed no BRAC mutation, so lumpectomy became a reasonable option. 

Here is an article about lumpectomy & recurrence in different tumor subtypes. 
......the overall rate of local recurrence after lumpectomy at 5 years from trial registration was 4.2%, but researchers observed variations based on receptor type. Data showed that recurrence rates were highest for patients with triple-negative disease (6.9%) and lowest for triple-positive patients (3%). For patients with estrogen receptor–negative, HER2-positive disease, the recurrence rate was 4.7%. 

I just completed the radiation therapy. It was easy and quick done in 4 weeks (16 for whole breast + 4 boosts). 

Hope it helps. 

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Dx 12-27-2019 TN,Stg 1, Grade 3 Ultrasound 1.5cm/MRI 1.8cm, node-,BRAC-.
DD AC x 4, ultrasound cCR; Taxol x4
Lumpectomy:5-28-2020; 0/2 nodes. pCR.
Radiation: 20(16WBR+4 boosts) Total: 42.56Gy +10Gy
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