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Keep us posted Beth on how you are doing.  We will be with you in spirit Thursday when you begin your therapy.
 
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Beth,
 
That's a kick a$$ combo.  I'd be very very surprised if it doesn't get you NED soon.
 
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Ditto to what Pinehouse said!  I had carboplatin with taxotere and it was tough, but I have no way to know which was tougher, carboplatin or taxotere.  I've never had Iressa, but I've heard it's tough, but known to kick triple negative cancer's butt.
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I'm nervous about the side effects.  I had TAC with my initial breast cancer and I'd have a few rough days after each cycle of chemo.  I'm hoping that I won't miss too much work this time around.  It's the fatigue that I hated the most.  Of course I know that with new drugs come a whole new passel of side effects.  Ugh!  A few things I'm doing different this time are better diet, better hydration and exercise.  I get my PET/CT and brain MRI tomorrow so I'm nervous about that too. 

Does anyone have any helpful info on Maitake mushroom extract or Boswellia?
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I took maitake during my first go-round in 2005, then stopped when I developed mets anyway.  At the time, there was a study at MD Anderson, and then later I checked and it had vanished.  There is some data on beta-glucan, which is the active component of Maitake.
 
I take boswellia now, and I believe Pinehouse does also, as part of the Edge - CAM regimen from NoSurrender's site.  Edge has a lot of information on alternative and complementary treatments, and boswellia is recommended especially for triple negs.  I also take ECGC, resveratrol, curcumin, D3, and calcium.
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I found the post on NoSurrender's site and ordered what I was missing in my supplement line up.  I was already doing the D3 and calcium as well as fish oil and CQ-10(?), C, E, etc.  The maitake is so darned expensive!  I held of on that one for now. 

Today I go for my PET/CT scan as well as a brain MRI.  I should have the results by Thursday when I see my onc again and start my chemo.  The incision from my port is healing really well and hardly hurts at all.  I hope I'm just imagining that I'm starting to feel a little discomfort from the area where they found my mets (mediasteinum).  I'm trying really hard not to be angry at my old onc for not having me do any CT scans or testing other than the tumor marker tests every three months and not ordering a CT when he saw that my tumor markers were up back in October of last year.  I know that the tumor marker test isn't real reliable but if there's even a hint I would want to do some other testing to make sure.  Ugh...ok, I shouldn't dwell on that and I need to stay present and focused on what I can do from here on out.  Happy thoughts, happy thoughts, happy thoughts.

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Beth honey, all my prayers for good scans Thursday.
 
Yep look forward, the past is history, you got it!
 
Please share with us your results.
 
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Insurance companies are EVIL!

I just got a call from my oncologists office telling me that my insurance company will not approve the chemo combo that my oncologist submitted.  So, while I was scheduled to start tomorrow, now I have to wait to start chemo! 

I'm pretty sure I'll still get the Carbo and Avastin but they wouldn't approve the Ixempra.  So I may get Taxol or Taxotere instead.    What on earth is their issue???


Edited by BornInWA - Mar 18 2009 at 3:00pm
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Modified Radical Mastectomy, chemo TAC x 6 (every 3 weeks), Radiation.
DX mets to mediastinum 02/09.
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Born,
 
They are not just evil they are bas*****!! Who are they to decide the treatments? They are not doctors...oncologists...there are not enough swear words either in the dictionary or street language to describe these monsters.
 
The people sitting in those cubicles should be made to see you and all those denied treatments/meds face to face. They had better hope that they or a loved one never is dx with cancer. Why not the Ixempra? Cost?
 
How long do you have to wait to start chemo? Oh I get so bloody angry when you gals write of all that you have to go through.
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Evil bastard!!  There, Nancy, I spelled it for you.

I don't know why WE allow insurance company to play doctor, second guessing the practicing oncologist who's obviously more familiar with the particular patient's case.
 
Beth, if I'm not mistaken you are in California?  I have had experience with fighting & appealing for my treatment (two different times).  I'm fiestier than the doctor's office, I appealed to the  ins co. unsuccessfully so I took them to the state's independent medical review.  Both times the state ruled in favor of us (doctor and I).  But yes, the process was exhausting.
 
Does your oncologist think that settling for that modified combo would be ok for your particular case?


Edited by PineHouse - Mar 18 2009 at 6:37pm
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Yes, the nurse who called me today said that I could do Carbo, Avastin and Taxtore (I think) instead and she felt that that would still be a good combo with no compromise to the effectiveness.  I hope she's right.  I should know more after my appointment at 10:15 Thursday.

The nurse also said that my PET/CT and MRI held "no surprises".  I hope that means that the cancer mets are only in the one spot in my mediasteinum.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  I just want to get started because it just makes me so nervous to sit here doing nothing.

I did get some supplements I ordered today and I'll start on those tomorrow and take them until I finally start some sort of treatment.  My oncologist isn't against the supplements but asks that we not take them 24 hours before and after a treatment.

I'll check back in tomorrow after I find out more at my appointment.

Big hugs to you all,

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Beth,
I hope you hear good news today.  It is just awful what the insurance companies are doing and it seems many people are having even more trouble since so many companies made changes beginning at the first of this year.
 
 
 
Pinehouse has fought and got what she rightly deserved and I admire her for that.  It is a sickening shame women who are going thru what we do to also have to fight the system for help!
 
Let us know what you find out,
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I saw my doctor today.  The Carbo is out.  The tumor sample they sent to the lab for sensitivity testing came back as not sensitive to the carbo so we aren't going to use that one.  She wanted to go with Ixempra and Avastin as a second choice and is going to try to see if the insurance company will go for that one.  Third choice will be Avastin and Taxol.  Either way I'll be starting some sort of chemo next Tuesday. 
 
My PET/CT scan came back and showed that the mediasteinum is the only spot that shows cancer.  The tumor isn't any bigger than it was on the on the CT scan I had done back on January 29th but there are a few more lymph nodes involved, the biggest of them is about 1 cm.  The brain MRI was also negative and I'm going to have an MRI of my neck next week as well. 
 
I'm relieved that there's no other mets spots.  I hope that's a good thing.  I should know more tomorrow about my chemo.  Fighting with the insurance isn't worth it right now because I can't afford to take the time.  I should have started on something at least a month ago and to wait any longer would just be too big a risk. 
 
Oh, and the Avastin, Taxol combo would be once a week.  My onc tells me that's much easier to tolerate.  Any one have any experience with it? 
 
Hugs to you all,
 
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Hi Beth,
 
No I have no experience but I'm sure someone will jump in soon.
 
Here is some information for you though.
 
 
That is good news the tumor isn't any bigger and that the brain mri was negative!
 
Well you know having the information ahead of time that the Carbo is a no go will be to your benefit.  Wonder how many women are given meds w/o this testing, I am so glad they did this.
 
 
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Beth,
One thing to be aware of is that the chemo-sensitivity testing may not be accurate. (what type of test was performed??)  My understanding is that cancer cells behave very differently in our bodies and in test tubes.  I haven't read anything on this in detail, but I remember many women on this site posting that their chemo-sensitivity test results were very inaccurate, purporting that chemos that had worked well should not work and predicting high sensitivity to chemos that did nothing.  So...I'm  not sure you should rule Carbo out.  In general, it is a very good drug for TNs.

Love,
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Edited by dmwolf - Mar 20 2009 at 8:20am
DX 2/08@43 stg II IDC; gr2,0 nodes. Neoadj chemo, first ACx2 (fail) then CarboTaxotereX6(better). Lump, Rads done 11/08; Clodronate. False alarm queen: PetCT lung & TM marker. NED. PBM w/recon 9/10.
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Hi. I am a newbie to this site as well. I feel like my story is your story. I did no research into my cancer when I was diagnosed either(Metaplastic Carcinoma Triple Negative), I just wanted to be done and move on.Well I am one year post chemo and I just heard triple negative for the first time friday at my oncologist. I am sure it was said before, but I was so numb that I missed it I guess. How the hell did I wind up with the 2 most rare forms of cancer together is what I keep saying to myself. I also have kids at home Nikole 3, Andrew 15, and Frankie 17(a senior). I have been checking out the stats and what little I can find does not make me happy! My onc ordered a PET Scan for April 1st and I am anxious to get the results, but realize I cannot take that big sigh of relief til I hit 5 years! I just want you to know that I am thinking about you and if you need anything...to laugh, cry, scream, pound on a wall...whatever just let me know.
 
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Today was my first chemo treatment.  I ended up getting Taxol and Avastin weekly.  I'll have the taxol for six weeks and then just Avastin for awhile.  I'll know more from my oncologist when I see her next week.  I don't have to have Neulasta until my third week. 

I've been doing some research and have found that the spread to my mediastenum is sometimes considered a regional recurrence as opposed to distant mets.  My PET/CT showed that I have the one tumor as well as some lymph nodes on the same side of my sternum, under the ribs on the side where I had my mastectomy and that's the only place in my body where the cancer showed up.  I know it's pretty likely that it's going to spread but for now I guess I'm just looking for some hope. 

Hugs to you all and thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts 

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Hi Beth,
 
I hope these treatments go easy on you, you've had alot going on in the last year or so.
 
Keep sending the updates and letting us know how you are doing.  That is interesting to read about the mediastinum spread sometimes considered a recurrence, that is good news.
 
I really hope this Avsastin does the job!
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