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Topic: Nausea, Nutrition-other chemo side effects
Posted By: SagePatientAdvocates
Subject: Nausea, Nutrition-other chemo side effects
Date Posted: Feb 02 2012 at 8:41pm
Dear all,

There have been several threads/posts recently on folks having a poor appetite, difficulty keeping food down and/or being violently nauseous. Sandra was the latest with awful GI side effects from the chemo.

This has been a problem that can be very difficult to solve and I wanted to suggest that if you are able to 
see some palliative care specialists who deal with symptom management/supportive care they may have some helpful suggestions. I would try this route if the oncology/infusion nurse has not been successful with your problem. Having said that I am a huge fan of these nurses; it’s just that sometimes a patient needs a new perspective.

At different institutions they have different titles because palliative care=hospice in most people’s minds and that is not what we are talking about here. It’s an unfortunate link but it is what it is.

Here are some units at different cancer centers that I know have supportive care experts who can help folks going through chemo. 

at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Hospital in NYC. A woman I was helping found the professionals there knowledgeable and helpful in several areas-pain and breathing difficulties among others.

http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/palliative-care - http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/palliative-care

at MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston I accompanied a woman who again was helped by the palliative care folks with pain management. I found the professionals there very professional and compassionate. I found one, in particular, who was outstanding. Dr. Shalini Dalal.

http://www.mdanderson.org/education-and-research/departments-programs-and-labs/departments-and-divisions/palliative-care-and-rehabilitation-medicine/index.html - http://www.mdanderson.org/education-and-research/departments-programs-and-labs/departments-and-divisions/palliative-care-and-rehabilitation-medicine/index.html

at Mayo Clinic-Rochester they had a palliative care unit before the word hospice was used. They crafted a special diet, successfully, for a woman who was having great difficulties.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/palliative-care/ - http://www.mayoclinic.org/palliative-care/

There are many palliative care clinics/departments across the country. If there isn’t one at the center where you are receiving your infusions there may be one nearby.

There may be no magic wand, for some, even after seeing the supportive care folks but I fee strongly that it is worth a try. 

Also, at times oncologists don’t want to lose control of their patients and they are not helpful, unfortunately, referring patients to the palliative care units. That is unfortunate but, at times it is the reality. The mark of an excellent oncologist, in my mind, is the one who told me recently "I refer people to the palliative care unit here because they do a better job on the various issues than I do." I wish I could clone him. Smile

If anyone is having trouble finding a good unit please send me a PM and I will try to help.

warmly,

Steve








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I am a BRCA1+ grandson, son and father of women affected by breast/oc-my daughter inherited mutation from me, and at 36, was dx 2004 TNBC I am a volunteer patient advocate with SAGE Patient Advocates



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Posted By: *Nancy
Date Posted: Feb 02 2012 at 9:07pm
Steve,
I am not sure if my question is on topic with your opening post or not. (I apologize if so.)
While I was going through chemo, I did not have N/V, but I had great difficulty with my lower GI system, specifically diarrhea. I still suffer from that condition today, although not near as frequently as while going through chemo. I have been convinced that chemo sensitized my intestinal tract. My last chemo was in July 2010. Help me understand this palliative care. Would it assist me in keeping my condition in check so long after chemo was completed?
Thank you for your thoughts.
~ Nancy ~


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Dx March 2010, age 54, 5 mm tumor, Stage Ia, Grade 3, 0/3 Nodes, Ki-67 70%,

Lumpectomy April 2010, TC x 4, Rads x 33, Treatment completed Sept 2010, NED 06/17


Posted By: SagePatientAdvocates
Date Posted: Feb 02 2012 at 10:23pm
Dear Nancy,

The bad news is that I don’t have the answer to your question. The good news is that I asked a Palliative Care physician, who is a friend, two questions-

Will a palliative care unit see a patient a year and a half after chemo?

and will insurance pay for it?

I will let you know as soon as I have a response.

Recently my granddaughter made a mistake while she was reading a book to me...she reads to me every weekend and she messed up a word and said “Grandpa, I am so sorry I got that wrong.” And, we established a rule...no sorry’s are necessary between us regarding her reading...

so, Nancy let’s have a rule, there are no sorry's here...

I sat with a woman and her husband for 3 hours recently before we saw her oncologist and we were preparing questions that she might ask if he didn’t cover the information when he spoke..She said “this is a stupid question..I don’t know if I should ask him?” I said, “There are no stupid questions, just a stupid disease. I suggest you ask him.”

I will try my best to get you some answers and I am very sorry you are still suffering. 7+ years after her treatment my daughter still has bone/joint pain from the Taxol and has chemobrain. For her, chemo seems to have done what it needed to do, but at a price.

warmly,

Steve


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I am a BRCA1+ grandson, son and father of women affected by breast/oc-my daughter inherited mutation from me, and at 36, was dx 2004 TNBC I am a volunteer patient advocate with SAGE Patient Advocates



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