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I'm looking for people who were initially treated with ACT and did not respond... wondering what you have tried since - what has worked or not... Thanks! Jackie
Dx 5/10 IDC stage 3 age 38. AC/D chemo. Dble Mast 11/10. No rads- mets-started Gem/Cis/Avastin. 2/11 NED.   6/11 Mets - started Gem/Carb/Iniparib- progression 11/11 Abraxane w/Avastin
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Did Adriamycin, Taxol & Taxotere....then Abraxane & 38 rads.  I'm NED now.

2008 BRCA 1+ dx stg 1,gr 3 IDC triple neg. BM w/ recon. CT x 4. Prophy TAH 2007. Recurrence 9/13/10. 10/5/10 tumor excised. ACx4, Taxol x3, abraxane x 9. 38 rads. 7/11 NED!!!
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I'm participating in a Xeloda monotherapy trial after ACT apparently failed me. Will see how it goes...

DX 08/11 Recurrent Stg 4 TNBC, 3 ax tumors, 2 supra clavicular & sev sm lung mets. Xeloda trial failed after 2 treatments. Currently on Ixempra trial and tumors are shrinking!
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I had a 5.1 cm tumor remaining after 6 rounds of neoadj. ACT.  I am starting a Phase II rial using cisplatin & PARP inhibitor.  Sorry I don't have results.  But, I will let you know how it goes.  Let me know if you have any questions about the trial.
 
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DX 11/2010 age 43,BRCA2+,6 rounds TAC,bx mast/ovary removal 5/2011,TNBC tumor 5.1 cm,02/14 nodes positive,37 rads,Cisplatin&PARP trial.Recurrence 2/2012,TN IBC,Abraxane didn't work, Ixempra & Xeloda
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I responded to AC, but developed resistance to Taxol and Carboplatin (doing them concurrently).  I was doing Xeloda with Avastin when my mets were discovered on Monday.  I will be doing the Abraxane/Tig trial.  MO also said we could try Ixempra and Halaven (good for resistant tumors), and she'd be willing to revisit chemos since it has been awhile.  Hoping the Abraxane trial gets me NED and keeps me there.
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Dx 30/11/10 TNBC BRCA2+ DMX FEC + TAXOL + RADS - did'nt work - exactly 1 year later mets to lungs, liver, sternum and nodes. I'm now on Gemzar/Avastin/Cisplatin regimen and I can physically say I can breathe again in a single breathe and the big tumour on my sternum has started to shrink (well it feels like it has) and that is after only 1 X 11 hour infusion of this cocktail. I'm back in on Wednesday for Gemzar only then I have a week off, then start all over again. Will keep you posted as I go, just feeling yuck still from the first infusion. But glad to be here sharing what I can that may be of use to others. Blessings to all. xxoo
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Hi Jackie and all,

Great, great forum topic.

I am 1 year post DD (dose dense) ACT and have had no recurrence.
( DD ACT, unilateral mastectomy with ALND (axillary lymph node dissection), radiation )

Would like to ask members who will post (and maybe an addendum from those who posted
already) to include if the ACT was DD (dose dense) every 2 weeks or was every 3 weeks.
The reason for asking this.........just in case there is any difference in the every 2 versus 3 weeks
dosing.

Noticed that some included whether they had radiation or not.
If possible, would like to ask if the radiation or no radiation info could be given.
The reason for asking this......there could be some interesting info from this.........
maybe not significant but ? showing a trend.

Sincere hopes that all the mentioned second treatment plans work.

Thank you for starting this forum topic.
Thank you to the members who posted and will post.

With caring and hopeful thoughts,

Grateful for today................Judy
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I had FEC every 3 weeks for 3 sessions and then 9 weeks of taxol.
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Judy,

I had Lumpectomy, DD ACT, no rads D Mastectomy this past tuesday.
 
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TNBC stage1 size 1.8, grade3 no nodes 4/11 Lumpectomy 5/11 4cycles DD A/C 4cycles DD Taxol. Double Mastectomy 12/11 BRCA all neg
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I have been wondering about the role of radiation therapy (RT) for TNBC even if the surgery was a mastectomy.


Judy -- should we start a survey?

 

A number of restrospective studies seem to suggest that RT may be important:

 

1. J Clin Oncol. 2011 Jul 20;29(21):2852-8. Epub 2011 Jun 13.

 

Increased risk of locoregional recurrence for women with T1-2N0 triple-negative

breast cancer treated with modified radical mastectomy without adjuvant radiation

therapy compared with breast-conserving therapy.

 

Abdulkarim BS, Cuartero J, Hanson J, Deschênes J, Lesniak D, Sabri S.

 

Cross Cancer Institute and University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

bassam.abdulkarim@mcgill.ca

 

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    J Clin Oncol. 2011 Jul 20;29(21):2841-3.

 

PURPOSE: To evaluate the risk of locoregional recurrence (LRR) associated with locoregional treatment of women with primary breast cancer tumors negative for estrogen receptor, progesterone receptor, and human epidermal growth factor receptor 2 (triple-negative breast cancer [TNBC]). 

PATIENTS AND METHODS: Patients diagnosed with TNBC were identified from a cancer  registry in a single institution (n=768). LRR-free survival was estimated using Kaplan-Meier analysis. The Cox proportional hazards regression model was used to  determine risk of LRR on the basis of locoregional management: breast-conserving  therapy (BCT; ie, lumpectomy and adjuvant radiation therapy [RT]) and modified radical mastectomy (MRM) in the TNBC population and T1-2N0 subgroup. 

RESULTS: At a median follow-up of 7.2 years, 77 patients (10%) with TNBC developed LRR. Five-year LRR-free survival was 94%, 85%, and 87% in the BCT, MRM, and MRM + RT groups, respectively (P < .001). In multivariate analysis, MRM (compared with BCT), lymphovascular invasion and lymph node positivity were associated with increased LRR. Conversely, adjuvant chemotherapy was associated with decreased risk of LRR. For patients with T1-2N0 tumors, 5-year LRR-free survival was 96% and 90% in the BCT and MRM groups, respectively (P = .027), and  MRM was the only independent prognostic factor associated with increased LRR compared with BCT (hazard ratio, 2.53; 95% CI, 1.12 to 5.75; P = .0264). 

CONCLUSION: Women with T1-2N0 TNBC treated with MRM without RT have a significant increased risk of LRR compared with those treated with BCT. Prospective studies are warranted to investigate the benefit of adjuvant RT after MRM in TNBC.

 

PMID: 21670451  [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

 

2. Am J Clin Oncol. 2011 Jun;34(3):231-7.

 

Locoregional recurrence in patients with triple-negative breast cancer:

preliminary results of a single institution study.

 

Dragun AE, Pan J, Rai SN, Kruse B, Jain D.

 

Department of Radiation Oncology, James Graham Brown Cancer Center, University of

Louisville, Louisville, KY 40202, USA. aedrag01@louisville.edu

 

PURPOSE: To examine the impact of radiotherapy on breast cancer patients with triple-negative (ER-, PR-, HER2/neu-) disease. 

MATERIALS AND METHODS: A prospectively collected database of 152 triple negative  breast cancer patients was initiated in 2004. A total of 77 patients who had all  phases of their therapy (surgery, chemotherapy, and radiotherapy) at our institution with a minimum of 2-months follow-up are included. Patients with all  types of surgery (lumpectomy or mastectomy), chemotherapy (neoadjuvant or adjuvant), and radiotherapy (tangents only or comprehensive nodal irradiation) are included. Patients received radiotherapy in the setting of breast-conservation and in the postmastectomy setting for ‚â•5 cm primary tumors and/or ‚â•4 positive lymph nodes. Patients were divided into 2 groups for statistical analysis, based on whether they received radiotherapy or not. 

RESULTS: In the cohort, 53 (69%) received radiotherapy, 24 (31%) received no radiotherapy. The median follow-up was 23.2 months (range, 2.0-63.1). In the alive patients, the median follow-up time was 25.6 (range, 2.0-63.1) months. Patients who received radiotherapy were significantly more likely to be of a higher AJCC stage (P < 0.001) than patients who did not receive radiotherapy. Of  the patients who received radiotherapy, 33 (61.1%) did so for breast conservation. For the entire group, 1- and 3-year overall survivals are 90.9% and 86.3%, respectively. The 3-year actuarial locoregional relapse-free survival probability for patients who received radiation was higher than those who did not receive radiation (79.6% vs. 57.9%, P = 0.049). 

CONCLUSIONS: Despite significantly lower AJCC stage, patients with triple-negative breast cancer who do not undergo radiotherapy have a significantly higher risk of locoregional recurrence.

 

PMID: 20805742  [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

But not universal:

 

 

1. Ann Surg Oncol. 2011 Oct;18(10):2858-65. Epub 2011 Mar 26.

 

The negative effect of triple-negative breast cancer on outcome after

breast-conserving therapy.

 

Zaky SS, Lund M, May KA, Godette KD, Beitler JJ, Holmes LR, O'Regan RM, Yu ES, Yu

DS, Landry JC.

 

Department of Radiation Oncology, Emory University Winship Cancer Center,

Atlanta, GA, USA.

 

PURPOSE: To evaluate disease failure patterns and overall survival (OS) of women  with triple-negative (TN) breast cancer who underwent breast-conserving therapy (BCT) and to understand the relationship of TN tumors with other prognostic factors.

PATIENTS AND METHODS: The Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) registry identified 562 women diagnosed and/or treated with unilateral invasive breast cancer during 2003-2004 at three Emory hospitals. After medical record review, 193 eligible women, with all tumor types, received BCT. Primary endpoints (local, regional, and distant recurrences) and secondary endpoint (OS) were evaluated using chi-square tests and Cox proportional hazards models.

RESULTS: Of the 193 women, 33 (17.1%) had TN tumors and 160 (82.9%) had non-TN tumors. Patient characteristics were similar between the two tumor types; however, tumor grade and use of chemotherapy and hormones differed between the two groups. Median follow-up was 3.4 years; 22 patients had recurrence (12.2%), and 12 died (6.2%). Patients with TN tumors had higher local (12% versus 4% for non-TN) and distant recurrences (15% versus 4% for non-TN) rates (p = 0.01). On multivariate survival analyses, TN status [hazard ratio (HR) 1.8, 95% confidence  interval (CI) 1.13-2.93] and African American (AA) race (HR 1.9, 95%CI 1.2-3.07)  were independent predictors of inferior OS.

CONCLUSIONS: Patients with TN breast cancer showed significant increases in local and distant metastatic recurrence rates after BCT, and TN status and AA race were independent negative predictors of survival. For the future, identification of these high risk features may bring personalized medicine closer to reality.

 

PMID: 21442346  [PubMed - in process]

 

Note in this paper, 30/33 of patients with TNBC had RT.

12/9/11 @59,IDC,grade3, TNBC,3cm(MRI),SLNB0,stage IIA, BRCA1 variant
1/30/12 DD AC-T, 6/7/12 Lumpectomy, ypT1b(0.8 cm), 7/9/12 Rads x 30
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I had TAC (taxotere, adriamycin - two doses epirubicin due to shortage, and cytoxan) x 6 before uniMX - some response, but not good (RCB 3.2) to chemo. Had 4 field rads with boost to tumor site. Now on clinical trial with eribulin. Last CT hips to neck, 10/11 NED.
2.5 cm TNBC, BRCA-, diag. 2/11, neoadj chemotherapy, uni MX, y2cm,2/16 nodes, RCBII, tumor retested 5-10%ER+,PR-,Her2-, rads, clin trial eribulin 10/11-2/12, tamox.
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Christina,

What was the frequency of your TAC treatment ?

Thanks very much.


With caring and positive thoughts,

Grateful for today..........Judy

Edited by Grateful for today - Feb 23 2012 at 1:42am
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Mine was given every 3 weeks.  You're welcome.
 
 
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Hi,

Thanks to all who further clarified if ACT was every 3 weeks or 2 weeks and plus/minus radiation.


Now, we can back to Jackie's main question:
        people who were initially treated with ACT and did not respond... wondering what you have tried
          since -      what has worked or not...

Judy
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6 days post my fisrt gem/cis/avas and I've stopped coughing up blood already and basicallyh no more excess sputum - so I'll take that as a positive response for now. I'll keep you posted how I go after Gemzar only infusion tomorrow. Early days, but I can see the hope at the end of my rainbow. xxoo

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For me, Carbo/Taxotere worked where AC did not.

By the way, did someone ask whether every two weeks for ACT is better than every three?  YES, there are clinical trial results showing this.  Dose dense is the way to go if you can deal with the side effects.

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Diagnosed Oct 2007-I did A/C every 2 weeks then Taxol every week for 12 weeks and Carbo every 3 weeks with the Taxol. Did 3 out of 4 Carbo before counts dropped.  Did radiation as well. Was Stage 1
Recurrance in August 2010, had bi lateral masectomy  ( lymph nodes on both sides this time ). Did Xeloda and Taxotere and Xeloda with Rads again for 7 weeks.
Good to go until Oct 2011, by accident found 2 mets to sacrum and spine and now spots on sternum and in mamm nodes ( I think).  Finished up rads to spine, now starting rads to sternum to try and slow/knock out sternum and lymph mets. Im on a trial now taking Bicalatumide which is a daily pill. Praying it stops things in it tracks:)
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I was diagnosed 9/2010 and did neOadjuvant AC ever 3 weeks followed by weekly taxol X 12. I did not have a complete repel se (tumor present at my bilat MX). Then had radiation. Had a recurrence in the breast on radiation, quickly followed by brain metastasis. Doing whole brain radiation now, and will learn the final chemo plan at the end of this month. Right now I don't have any cancer and hopefully whatever they give me will keep it that way!!!

I am on herceptin and tykerb because the recurrence path said HER2+, but all other reports were TN
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TNBC 9/10
neoadjuvant AC+T/T1aN1 at surgery, TE then rads.
Chest wall recurrence 9/11: surgery and more rads
Brain metastasis 10/11: surgery, now on WBRT and chemo to follow
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I was dx 4/2010 and had lumpectomy, 6/2010 TAC every 3 weeks 6 times, and I think 33 rads which were finished 1/2011.  So far so good, I hope.  

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Age 40, 4/28/10 lumpectomy (3 cm) TNBC Grade 3 Stage 2 0/3 nodes, TAC 6x 3 week cycles start 6/15 finish 9/27, 33 rounds rads 11/22. BRCA1 & 2 neg. Lymphedema rt hand 8/14. Joint pain Dec 2010.
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What is your result from Xeloda?  I am currently doing that?
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