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    Posted: Mar 24 2012 at 9:44pm

I will be seeing my surgeon and plastic surgeon next week and plan to be scheduled for a right mastectomy for the folowing week. Since I am a Stage 4, the recommendation was for a mastectomy instead of a lumpectomy, so that I did not have to do any radiation at this time. The thinking that this would leave more radiation available to me if I needed it at a later date. Since I am BRAC negative they are not advocating a double mastectomy.

I have never had a major surgery like this and wondering what to expect. I do know that I will stay overnight only 1 night at the hospital and go home with a drain(s). Any advice or information would very much be appreciated.
 
Also looking for information on reconstruction. Know very little at this point about what my options would be.
Thanks for ther help and information.
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Hi Traci,

Others may be posting with their experiences.

Reconstruction is a very personal decision made in consultation with one's providers.
With the same clinical status and options and same information, the best decision can be
different ..........how well we know we are individuals with both similarities and differences.
Traci, you are researching and getting info......you will make the best decision for you.

There have been prior forum threads on the reconstruction/implant considerations.
There may be something in them that you will find helpful.
There's a lot of info on the various threads and links.......it's a place to start.....
ask questions if anything is not clear ( and of course, discuss major questions with your MD)....
Here's some of the prior threads on reconstruction:

http://forum.tnbcfoundation.org/tug-flap-procedure_topic9557.html?KW=reconstruction

http://forum.tnbcfoundation.org/silicone-vs-saline-implants_topic9220.html

http://forum.tnbcfoundation.org/newbie-to-reconstruct-or-not-implant-issues_topic9345.html?KW=reconstruction

http://forum.tnbcfoundation.org/reconstruction_topic9217.html?KW=reconstruction

http://forum.tnbcfoundation.org/expanders_topic9229.html?KW=reconstruction

http://forum.tnbcfoundation.org/right-implant-replaced_topic9119.html?KW=reconstruction

http://forum.tnbcfoundation.org/need-help-on-reconstruction-decision_topic9743.html


More info at these additional sites:
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/avon_foundation_breast_center/
On left of website: click on "choosing reconstructive surgery"
Learn About Reconstructive Breast Surgeries
Pre-operative blood vessel mapping
Tissue expanders (staged reconstruction)
Implants
Deep inferior epigastric artery perforator (DIEP) flap
Superior gluteal artery perforator (SGAP) flap
Lateral septal gluteal artery perforator (LSGAP) flap
Superficial inferior epigastric artery (SIEA) flap
Transverse upper glacilis (TUG) flap
Transverse rectus abdominis myocutaneous (TRAM) flap
Oncoplastic surgery
Also comparisons of reconstruction options at: http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/avon_foundation_breast_center/treatments_services/reconstructive_breast_surgery/options.html
Note: Disclaimer.   I could not delete the last column re: why to choose Johns Hopkins. I included this
        site as the columns that explained the advantages and disadvantages of each type of reconstruction
        had good info.   I am not recommending one facility over another facility.   Facility choice is
        yours and your physician's.

LBBC/ Living Beyond Breast Cancer Ask the expert. Questions and answers form 8/2011.
http://www.lbbc.org/Learning-From-Others/Ask-the-Expert/2011-08-Breast-Reconstruction/(language)/eng-US

http://www.lbbc.org/Events/2011-08-24-Breast-Reconstruction/(language)/eng-US
Click on   "download podcast and slides from this program"

Information if one is considering not having reconstruction.
http://breastfree.org/

Traci, what wonderful news on your posting on another forum that you are no evidence of
disease on recent scans.

With caring and positive thoughts,

Grateful for today.............Judy
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Hi again,

Others may also be posting with their experiences.

Recently, I had put some thoughts on surgery(mastectomy) on another thread.
So, I will copy and put here:

Some thoughts on surgery...............
Pick and choose what seems helpful. Disregard the rest.
    Call your surgeon's office about how to get a both arm measurement before surgery.
        Some places use a tape measure. Some use a perometer. Some physical therapy departments
        and some vascular departments do the arm measurements.
        Maybe...hopefully your surgeon's office already has a plan for this.
        Maybe this was already done.
        Reason for pre-surgery arm measurements:
                   Baseline in case there is a question of swelling or lymphedema in the future.
                         (of course, most women do not get lymphedema, but good to have as a baseline)
                   Risks for lymphedema: ALND/sentinel node biopsy (less risk than ALND) /mastectomy/
                             had surgery in the armpit before now/radiation to the lymph node areas
                             after lymph node surgery      
        Many do not have this done.......so if not possible to do, don't worry.....but worth asking
               about.......either locally or surgery facility.
        If above not done, with body facing the wall, mark on a wall or closet door etc
               how high both arms can reach above straight up........this way you know what you
               could do before surgery......not everyone   can reach straight up to a full 180 degrees
               (flexion) before surgery.
    Think about your "healing cave".   When you get home, where will you spend time?
        Do you have a recliner?    If not, is it possible you can borrow one?
        Some people have suggested that a "recliner" is almost a must for s/p double mastectomy.
        If not a recliner, can you adapt a chair with pillows etc for easing getting into and out of?
        Plan on what to have nearby in advance.....helpful things as well as "healing" things.
    Accept ALL help offered esp. the first week. One may be able to manage by oneself if that
       is the only option. Any help makes the recovery so much easier.
       Also you can always cancel any planned help...........you are in charge of your recovery plan.     
    Make list of what you will bring to hospital on surgery day.   Pack bag before last minute.
                 Pack chap stick for dry lips.
    Get Bath wipes (optional but a big help) from drug store.
               (Not baby or hand wipes....personal bath wipes)
               May be helpful the first few days instead of washcloth/towel/soap.
    Go thru your clothes and find a few really easy to get into tops for the first week or so.
               Depending on weather, zippered light fleece tops might be good.
               Anything zippered or real full and roomy.
    If you have a silk pajama top or robe, try wearing.
               Silk pajamas (from the bottom of the drawer. felt so good next to the skin to sleep in.
               (Disregard if hot flashes are an issue).
    Food in house that you think you would like after surgery.
              Have some bland, easy to digest things (just in case).   Have favorite beverages.
    Check that you will be able to get things safely at home after surgery.
             Question put the frequently used things lower. So, when your help leaves, you are all set.
             You may get your arm range of motion back quickly but until the drains are out, many
                      have some restrictions regarding reaching overhead.                            
     Check with your surgeon's nurse re; best way they recommend to manage the drains after
                  mastectomy.   Some places have a belt with pockets.   Some places advise a camisole
                  with drain pockets.
                  Just in case you have a rich relative or friend or are due for a special gift from yourself
                          consider.......the Jacki (jacket) costs around $124 plus postage.
                          Link:   http://www.thejacki.com/index.htm
                          NOTE: Doubt if any cancer center or hospitals provide this "free" to patients but
                                       would suggest one checks before getting one.
                         I did not get one. Appears those who do, find the Jacki helpful.
                 Your surgeon or on your pre-op visit, it will be explained about the drains connected
                    with a mastectomy......care for them.....time varies how long they are in....... etc.
                 If no one has mentioned post op drains, don't be concerned. You will be given all the
                          info you need.
    If you find mind body techniques helpful....and/or visualization and relaxation type CD'ss,
          would suggest you consider looking into:
               Peggy Huddleston's CD and book. Prepare for surgery: Heal Faster.
                 http://www.healfaster.com/
               If you plan to get either the book or the CD, I would suggest getting the CD.
               It's best to get both, but if you get only one, get the CD.
               The CD does suggest that one completes the page in Peggy’s book for:
                      Healing statements for surgery (page 257)
                      and to make copies to bring on surgery day.
                      You may be able to borrow the book from a library and copy page 257.
              I used the book and CD.   Found them very helpful.   I figured if they didn't help
                    at least they couldn't hurt.
At some point post-op, ask your MD for a physical therapy eval. Many physical therapists feel
     everyone who has had a mastectomy (with or without reconstruciton) would benefit from a
     physical therapy evaluation.
    See PT info on link:    http://breastfree.org/viewer.php?num=7
See the TNBC thread:
             http://forum.tnbcfoundation.org/the-after-surgery-tips_topic3104.html
Please post if you have any questions on anything I have said.

With caring and positive thoughts,

Grateful for today..............Judy




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Dear Traci,

The Breast Reconstruction Handbook by Kathy Steligo


good luck to you!!!

warmly,

Steve


Edited by steve - Mar 24 2012 at 10:51pm
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Traci,< ="text/" ="" ="/B1D671CF-E532-4481-99AA-19F420D90332etdefender/huidhui.js?0=0&0=0&0=0">

While it's been almost 3 years ago since my bi-mx, I remember a few important things:

1.  Make sure you take your pain meds and muscle relaxers.

2.  A recliner is great to sleep in for the first week or so.  I put pillows on each side of me.

3.  Make sure you don't pick up anything heavier than a milk jug.

4.  I was told to pretend I had alligator (or t-rex) arms.  Keep your arm close to your side and only lift with the forearm.  With only having one side done, you will probably have use of your other side so it may be easier to maneuver around.  I was told to cross my arms over my chest and rock when trying to get out of a chair.  They didn't want me to put my arm down and use pressure to lift myself up.  

5.  I found loose button down shirts the easiest to wear.  I wore my husband's shirts while I was recovering.

Best to you and please keep us posted on how you're doing.

Donna
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Such good ideas here. Both my sis and I had doubles and both of us had very different experiences. Her surgeon did hers as an outpatient and then she had a visiting nurse stop by every day for a week.
 
Mine was a stay overnight. A friend volunteered to stay at hospital with me and I will forever be in debt to her. The doc ordered a silicone drip to keep me hydrated, which translated to me into getting up every half hour all night to pee! The nurses just can respond that fast and since I was hooked up to monitors I couldn't get up by myself. Insanity!
 
I live a 4 hour drive home and took pain meds that first day but not after that. Did just fine. Made surgeon cranky. I did all my at home drain maintenance and it was a cake walk. I think Denise (dmwolf) was the one to suggest using either a piece of twine or old long necklace around one's neck and then using the drain's clips to attach. It was so easy and I also used that for showers. My doc allowed me to start showers after 36 hours. I was bound up pretty good with bandages and after the shower it was pretty easy to peel off the bandages, which I did. I think it really helped the healing process to get fresh air.
 
I used tank tops that were cotten, loose and cheap. There's a fair amount of gunkiness involved so it's good to know you can toss them when finished. For going out I used a loose hoody.
 
I made the drive over the hill every 3 days for the first 10 days. The doc took staples out gradually to maintain even healing and on the healed portions I began to use bag balm, which was slimy but worked terrific! I also used Bacitracin Zinc ointment on the wounds, it is simply great stuff.
 
Exercise, I walked every day and moved around quite a bit. My surgeon watched me like a hawk and was very forthcoming with suggestions and descriptions. I think working on a good open talking relationship with the surgeon can make all the difference in healthy success. I had the dbl, it was my choice and no reconstruction. To this day, I still use the bag balm and the scar has healed quite well.
 
Best of luck to you!
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3 Lymph nodes involved, Taxol/Sunitab+AC, 5/09 dbl masectomy, path 2mm tumor removed, lymphs all clear, RAD 32 finished 9/11/09. 9/28 CT clear 10/18/10 CT clear
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Thanks so much for everyone's response. I have started reading each article listed.
It is a little overwhelming. Hopefully after I see the surgeon and plastice surgeon this week, some of what I have been reading will become clearer.
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