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Topic: Any long term survivors out there? Posted: Dec 05 2011 at 11:01pm |
I would love to hear some stories on long term surviorship with tnbc everything you hear is so gloom and doom with this subject, I know there are new things around the corner for clinical trialsthat are in the works but I would love to hear from long term survivors that have stayed NED. I realize there are probably alot of you out there that are doing great and just moved on with your lives but I would love to hear from you to have some encouragement,so if you are out there please post know of someone who had tnbc and is doing well. This would be a great x-mas present for all of us.
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Posted: Dec 06 2011 at 12:05am |
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Hi Denise,
Are you thinking of any particular number of years to be a long term survivor?
Reason for this question: Kitkat started the topic: "Survivors needed" on TNBC Talk
on 3/27/11. Members who posted on that topic were 1-2-3 year survivors and
there were 6-7-8 year survivors. Just looked at that prior forum topic quickly so
there may be survivors more than 8 years out who also posted on the "Survivors
Needed" forum topic ( 9 pages of posts )
Also, have seen it said on some forums that people come to the TNBC forums when
initially diagnosed and when there is a recurrence......and that there are many, many
long term survivors out there who do not read/post on the forums. So, great idea
to ask the long term survivors-thrivers to post.
Found it interesting and helpful on the "Survivors Needed" forum topic when the
survivors also posted what they thought helped them be long term survivors.
With caring and positive thoughts,
Grateful for today...................Judy
One year survivor-thriver on the way to being a long term survivor-thriver.
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Posted: Dec 06 2011 at 12:12am |
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Denise, My niece who was diagnosed at age 38 with TNBC has been cancer free for 12 years. My sister who was diagnosed at age 60 has now been cancer free for 11 years. I will celebrate 4 years NED in March, 2012. That makes 3 in my family with TNBC and we are all doing great so far.
I think that since it hasn't been that long since TN was defined, there are a lot of women out there who didn't know they had this type of BC. They may not know about this web site so that may be why there are not posts from long time survivors.
God bless, Genie
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DX 3/10/08 at age 67, IDC. Stage 1, Grade 3, 1.5 cm. KI-67 99% at MX . Bilateral mastectomy 4/1/08 Node-, BRCA 1/2-,BARD1+, TX:Cytoxan/Taxotere x4,3 in family with TNBC
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Posted: Dec 06 2011 at 7:27am |
Hi Denise, I think Judy and Genie have identified the main reasons we don't see many long term survivors posting here. I have visited this site daily on behalf of my wife, Susan, since shortly after her diagnosis. She completed her treatment in April of this year and will celebrate her one year "cancerversary" on December 9 (if you measure from the surgery date), so we are still new to all of this. What I have noticed about my own activity on the site, even though we were recently involved in treatment, is that while I still visit regularly, I post much less frequently since Susan completed treatment. Of course that's partially because I have fewer questions, but also because I believe those currently involved in treatment are better equipped to comment. I hope that my activity on the site will not continue to diminish over time if Susan is fortunate enough to eventually become a long-term survivor. I too hope that some long-term survivors will see this and check in with us. It would truly be an encouraging, uplifting, and much needed gift for all of us. Martin
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Wife age 53@dx TN IDC Stage IIA 7/10; BRCA1&2 Neg; BROCA Neg; LN Neg; taxol+cisplatin+/-RAD001x12(clinical trial); lumpectomy 12/10;ACx4; 33 Rads complete 4/11; NED 5/5/11
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Posted: Dec 06 2011 at 8:28pm |
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As of November4th,date of surgery, I am a 3yr survivor!
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dx 10/08,age 56,.75 cm. Stage1 Grade3,lumpectomy,SN neg..,AC 12/08-02/09,35rads,03/09-05/09,BRCA2+(E1415X),06/09,oophorectomy 10/09,
Zometa - IV/mo.,07/09-08/10, lumpectomy #2 10/20/10 NED
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Posted: Dec 06 2011 at 10:04pm |
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Way to go Susie! Will be praying for many, many more years of NED!!!
Hugs, Genie
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DX 3/10/08 at age 67, IDC. Stage 1, Grade 3, 1.5 cm. KI-67 99% at MX . Bilateral mastectomy 4/1/08 Node-, BRCA 1/2-,BARD1+, TX:Cytoxan/Taxotere x4,3 in family with TNBC
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Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 6:06am |
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to Grateful for Today,
I can't find the Survivors needed thread in Talk or Forums. Can you tell me what page it is on in Talk or where it is archived? None of my doctors have given me a shred of hope or a pep talk other than to continue with treatments. They just look at me kindly - Perhaps many of you know this look. I got the courage to ask one respected Dr what my future held and she told me my chance of recurrence was 100% and that was that. I am not used to this from doctors and find it has affected my ability to be positive for myself and my family. Not acceptable! I figure it is my job is to provide myself hope and would love to read success stories. Thanks, Karen
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Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 9:55am |
Dear KarenC, WHAT?? 100%??? Did they leave part of tumor intact just to be sure?? (Sarcasm here obviously) I would love to see your info on your initial staging and what kinds of treatment/responses you have had thus far, etc. That's a crazy thing to say unless they really did just leave a little bit of cancer there untreated. I agree with the others, the folks who don't have a recurrence have a less and less need for the support found here so you will not see the hundreds of stories that could fill these pages. Sorry to say it is folks like me, THE SMALLER PERCENTAGES of the TNBC population that tend to hover around asking questions and looking for support. Certainly nothing wrong with looking for some longterm survivors, but maybe you need a new, more positive doctor to ask questions of.
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Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 2:36pm |
KarenC,
Can you share your story with us? If you want to put your info in the signature so that it shows up at the bottom of your posts, just go to the upper left side of the screen and click on Member Control Panel. Scroll down until you see Edit Profile, then Signature. Type your info and go to the bottom of the page and click on Update Profile.
Donna
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DX IDC TNBC 6/09 age 49, Stage 1,Grade 3, 1.5cm,0/5Nodes,KI-67 48%,BRCA-,6/09bi-mx, recon, T/C X4(9/09) 11/10 Recur IM node, Gem,Carb,Iniparib 12/10,MRI NED 2/11,IMRT Radsx40,CT NED11/13,MRI NED3/15
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Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 3:05pm |
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Karen C,
To find the previous Topic: Survivors Needed ( 9 pages of posts):
Go to: TNBC Talk Forum. page 3. about 12th down (between Health Care Scams and Proton
radiation) and you will find: Survivors Needed.
OR
Go to Search at top of page:
Search with words: survivors needed
Change from show posts to show topics. Hit GO.......
A few topics will come up with survivors and you can quickly find survivors needed.
Karen, thanks for asking how to find as topics in the forums are according to date of
last post.....which I forgot to say in my above post.
Have some other thoughts on recurrence.
Will start a new topic either tonight or tomorrow.....will call it something like:
Recurrence concern......will have the word recurrence in it on the TNBC talk forum
Have NEVER heard the recurrence risk for TNBC is 100%.
There are many reasons to be hopeful.
With caring and positive and very, very hopeful thoughts,
Grateful for today..............Judy
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Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 3:51pm |
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Karen C. and all,
Just noticed Donna posted on "Survivors Needed" after I posted above.
So now, Survivors needed, is easy to find on TNBC Talk.....page 1.......with
posts dated today. ( 12/7/11)
Judy
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Posted: Dec 21 2011 at 5:00pm |
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Karen C- Please DO talk to another oncologist. That's a ridiculous statement! What.. does s/he hold a crystal ball?
Genie- What wonderful success stories! It fills us all with hope!
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Dx July 2011 56 yo Stage I IDC,TN,Grade 3 Grew to Stage IIa- No ev of node involve- BRCA1+ chondroid metaplasia Daughter also BRCA1+ Mass grew on Taxol FEC 6x better BMX 3/19/12 pCR NED BSO 6/2012
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Posted: Dec 22 2011 at 5:14pm |
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Hi all,
Thanks for your great responses! I have posted a few times but didn't have my signature , but I do now. The doctor who told me about the high chance of recurrence for me is a wonderful onc, a third opinion, and was responding to my request for honesty so I could plan for my daughters realistically. She is not my treating doc, but is a breast CA specialist and I trust her. She cited an article from the Journal of Clinical Onc- Measurement of Residual Breast Cancer Burden to Predict Survival After Neoadjuvant Chemotherapy, Symmans, Peintinger, et al. The small N of patients like me in this study did not go on to have more chemo like I am doing, and 100% had a recurrence. She said she couldn't find a study showing the recurrence rate for those who went on to to have more chemo after neoadjuvant chemo and surgery. Are there any newer studies ? I have hope of course, but since day one all of the things that could have gone well have not...First the TBNC diagnosis, then the news to so many pos lymph nodes after chemo, then the low K1-67 and RCB=3. That is why I felt the 100% recurrence rate would apply to me, negative as that is. I am truly working on optimism and would like to read anything you all recommend. Karen
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2/25/11 BX Lft SNode/TN.Trial of Gemzar/Carb/Parp 3/31-6/31.BMX 7/11.Clear mrgns,6/30 nodes.TaxolX12,DD A/CX4 done1/3/12.25 Rads/Xeloda/bolus pad done 2/28/12.PET-7/12
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Posted: Dec 22 2011 at 8:29pm |
Karen,
I'm not aware of any studies regarding additional chemo after neoadjuvant therapy. I wish we'd find some as there is a big debate in my mind for women being treated with neoadjuvant chemo and has a residual cancer burden. Even with your positive nodes, the additional chemo will work in your favor.
Donna
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I am confused. I finished my neoadjuvant and then surgery. How to know if more chemo is needed? Surveillance is too infrequent for my taste. My onc @ UCLA told me that there are only so many arrows in our quivers, and that early detection is not always best (after initial dx), since the options are so limited for tx. I was told that I have an excellent prognosis, but that recurrence bug just keeps handing around, especially since this is my second time around. What do you think about more chemo and the frequency of surveillance?
Even though surveillance is a snap shot in time, and you could test negative and then have something appear two weeks later, isn't it better to know? The oncs also keep quoting guidelines for surveillance, but it sounds like cost containment to me. Exactly what are all of the risks with scans, anyway?
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57 years old, mother of two daughters. 5/09 lumpectomy, rad; 3/11 C/T 6X, clear scans; 9/11 bilateral/lymph nodes surgery, NED
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Hi all, Three oncs recommended A/C and Taxol then radiation with Xeloda orally for me after surgery because ACT is the standard of care for TNBC and I did not have those prior to surgery. I had a trial of Gemzar/Carboplatin and Parp inhibitor with some response but still 6/30 pos lymph nodes after surgery. There didn't seem to be any hesitation on any of the docs part. No one has told me I have an excellent prognosis, so that is why I am having the kitchen sink thrown at me so to speak. There are other ladies in the same study that are having the same chemo/rad follow up as mine due to residual pos lymph nodes after surgery. They recommend Pet scans every 3 -4 months for me. Karen
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2/25/11 BX Lft SNode/TN.Trial of Gemzar/Carb/Parp 3/31-6/31.BMX 7/11.Clear mrgns,6/30 nodes.TaxolX12,DD A/CX4 done1/3/12.25 Rads/Xeloda/bolus pad done 2/28/12.PET-7/12
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Hi Rose,
The standard of care is no additional chemo after neoadjuvant and surgery. Most docs will stick with this and begin follow up with 3 month visits. Standard of care does not call for ANY scans with follow-up unless they suspect mets. As we have seen, many oncs do actually do scans but that is not what the ACCN guidelines recommend.The concern with all the additional scans is the radiation and future concerns, i.e. leukemia, as a result. I was initially pretty freaked with the idea of no scans, but I also think it can be false security- unless you look at Donna, where it probably saved her!!
I had residual tumor , although very small, after neoadjuvant chemo. I have opted to enter a study where I will receive more chemo. I struggled with getting chemo now that I might potentially need later for mets- not wanting to burn bridges i might need in the future, so to speak. The oncologist, who is a TNBC expert, felt that doing the chemo now gives me a better overall prospect of not needing it later by killing off any "micro metastases" as he called it. Personally, I think it is still a scary call, but what about this disease isn't?
Not sure if it helps at all...
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Thank you. I totally get it. I think you made the right call. The scan risks make me pause, and your posting helps me not to panic. Many thanks, Deb!
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57 years old, mother of two daughters. 5/09 lumpectomy, rad; 3/11 C/T 6X, clear scans; 9/11 bilateral/lymph nodes surgery, NED
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Deb- For what it's worth I think you made the right call, too. In light of your RCB which was so low, I feel you'll do SO well and stay NED forever. I pray that for you.
Wishing you a beautiful holiday,
Mindy
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Hi Deb, Congratulations on your mammo results, and I really relate to your thoughts about burning bridges. Do you know the types of chemo you will have in the study? Karen
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2/25/11 BX Lft SNode/TN.Trial of Gemzar/Carb/Parp 3/31-6/31.BMX 7/11.Clear mrgns,6/30 nodes.TaxolX12,DD A/CX4 done1/3/12.25 Rads/Xeloda/bolus pad done 2/28/12.PET-7/12
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